Arthur Penske Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: poor guy has been stuck in GB for that entire dismal season and now into the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nick_gb said: I don't believe he actually has a market. Not at those cap figures. Think this is a chiefs brass spread story in an effort to try and create a market for him before releasing him. Houston's contract actually isn't that bad. I would be willing to bet that as a FA he would get north of $15maav for a 3 year deal. This deal is a one year $15.5m cap hit, and a team option for 2020 at $17.5m at which point you could cut him, or extend him for another year or two to lower the hit and add guarantees. Edited February 28, 2019 by JBURGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor1124 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: I was pretty excited when we signed him to a prove it deal; unfortunately, he was underwhelming in the couple games before the injury. With him coming off an ankle injury like that, I would honestly rather go with someone else there, especially someone with some more pass rush ability. I would like us to make a run at Henry Anderson depending on what his price range is. With that being said, It wouldn't be the end of the world if they resigned him pretty cheap and he was apart of a rotation with Lowry, Adams, and Lancaster for the 3rd spot on the d-line/depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'd take Mo back on a prove it deal with incentives. But, look long term at the DL. Lowry and Daniels are due new deals next year. I think Clark will get a new deal or get the 5'th year option picked up. So...under contract for 2020....Adams, Deion Simon (who?), Eric Cotton (who?). That is it. Add Clark in there (cuz he isn't going anywhere), and we still have a need for another good, young DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor1124 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JBURGE said: Houston's contract actually isn't that bad. I would be willing to bet that as a FA he would get north of $15maav for a 3 year deal. This deal is a one year $15.5m cap hit, and a team option for 2020 at $17.5m at which point you could extend him for another year or two to lower the hit and add guarantees. While living in KC, I am a big Houston fan and always regretted that we selected Derek Sherrod over him in the 2011. With that being said, he isn't the same Houston that dominated a few years ago. Injuries have taken its toll and even though he is only 30 years old, he has really began to slow down; kind of like a Randall Cobb situation. The 9 sacks looks solid but he was basically a non-factor besides those and Dee Ford/Chris Jones definitely helped with that number. I don't think he is getting double digit millions per year as a FA. As mentioned, I assume he will be released, I don't see anyone trading for that contract. Edited February 28, 2019 by Victor1124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Victor1124 said: While living in KC, I am a big Houston fan and always regretted that we selected Derek Sherrod over him in the 2011. With that being said, he isn't the same Houston that dominated a few years ago. Injuries have taken its toll and even though he is only 30 years old, he has really began to slow down; kind of like a Randall Cobb situation. The 9 sacks looks solid but he was basically a non-factor besides those and Dee Ford/Chris Jones definitely helped with that number. I don't think he is getting double digit millions per year as a FA. As mentioned, I assume he will be released, I don't see anyone trading for that contract. Someone will have to find it for me because I can't, but I remember reading something along the lines of Houston being a top 2 or 3 OLB this year in pass rushing efficiency. Not saying I want to trade for him, I would rather see what he wants in FA, but he's not as ineffective as most people think. He is banged up a lot now though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, JBURGE said: Houston's contract actually isn't that bad. I would be willing to bet that as a FA he would get north of $15maav for a 3 year deal. This deal is a one year $15.5m cap hit, and a team option for 2020 at $17.5m at which point you could cut him, or extend him for another year or two to lower the hit and add guarantees. Do you really think he's going to get that kind of contract on the open market? I don't man, I don't really see it at his age and recent injury history. I could be wrong but I feel like that's a lot of change when you factor in those two things. Guess we'll see though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) wrong thread. Edited February 28, 2019 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor1124 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JBURGE said: Someone will have to find it for me because I can't, but I remember reading something along the lines of Houston being a top 2 or 3 OLB this year in pass rushing efficiency. Not saying I want to trade for him, I would rather see what he wants in FA, but he's not as ineffective as most people think. He is banged up a lot now though Yea, he definitely wasn't bad; saying he was a non-factor besides his sacks was probably a little strong. My analysis is just what i noticed when watching the games, especially from what he use to be. I do think a lot of his statistical success could have came from teams focusing on Dee Ford and Chris Jones, but he did take advantage and win some of the one on ones. There is also a reason that a team that needs defensive help and is close to the Superbowl is wanting to trade/release him with that contract, as well as not having a real successor to be confident in (their previous 2nd round picks on the DL haven't been great) . People will say it is because they are switching to a 4-3 but Houston can put his hand in the dirt and play 4-3 DE. I see him more as a 7-9 million a year guy but you never know with the market now. 15 million a year seems pretty strong. Edited February 28, 2019 by Victor1124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, gopackgo247 said: poor guy has been stuck in GB for that entire dismal season and now into the offseason. Pretty good ice fishing up there. Guessing that shouldn't happen if you have a bum ankle. LOL! BTW...iced a 30 inch walleye last week up there. Pre-spawn. Huge fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Pretty good ice fishing up there. Guessing that shouldn't happen if you have a bum ankle. LOL! BTW...iced a 30 inch walleye last week up there. Pre-spawn. Huge fish. Did you keep it? How did you prepare it if you kept it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: Did you keep it? How did you prepare it if you kept it? She's still swimming. I wouldn't eat anything out of the Fox. Just fishing for fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Reading this made me torn between busting out laughing or throwing up. *On a more serious note, this information, if true, actually cements my feeling that the Packers shouldn't bring Brice back at all. At best, he's a reserve player who will have to accept a demotion and understand that he's not starting and has no business starting. Sounds like he feels differently and wouldn't be happy with that role, which probably isn't good for the locker room, etc. I say just forego any tender and let him walk. Edited February 28, 2019 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon14 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, vegas492 said: I'd take Mo back on a prove it deal with incentives. But, look long term at the DL. Lowry and Daniels are due new deals next year. I think Clark will get a new deal or get the 5'th year option picked up. So...under contract for 2020....Adams, Deion Simon (who?), Eric Cotton (who?). That is it. Add Clark in there (cuz he isn't going anywhere), and we still have a need for another good, young DL. How dare you disrespect Tyler Lancaster like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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