BayRaider Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, TXsteeler said: What about if the Texans win the AFC South? They had a similar record to the bears last year and this year, although their schedule has been very soft. Bill O Brien is still a terrible head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 vander esch i think has DROY nailed playing for the cowboys and all the hype he gets don’t get me wrong his play has been excellent but guys like leonard are still a little under the radar in the msm due to playing for the colts and not dallas tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Derwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich homie Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 DROY is Darius Leonard and anyone that thinks otherwise needs a slap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I hate that Donald has been so unreal this season cuz Mack is having probably his best year yet and has dominated several games. Plus he gets Giants this weekend so he'll probably go off again... MVP - Drew Brees OPOY - Pat Mahomes DPOY - Aaron Donald CPOY - Andrew Luck OROY - Saquon Barkley DROY - Darius Leonard Coach - this is the hardest one for me. I wanna say Nagy but Fangio deserves alot of that credit fof that team too. Payton should get love. And Frank Reich deserves some love if Colts make the playoffs as well. And of course McVay and Reid should be in the convo. Darkhorse could also be Anthony Lynn if Chargers finish really strong as well. Nice to see a few good young coaches being infused into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, riceman80 said: I hate that Donald has been so unreal this season cuz Mack is having probably his best year yet and has dominated several games. Nothing to hate. Donald deserves it. In reality Mack has played on a similar level to Donald this year, but has slipped behind statwise due to games missed. That's the nature of the beast. It's also why I hate early season predictions, if you get injured & miss a game or two, you're essentially out of the race. I just hope he's awarded AP honours this year, because he's been the next best defender behind AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Mack's defense is the best in the NFL and by a considerable margin. Donald's defense is 26th. If you think that Donald has it wrapped up, you're going to be really surprised on NFL Honors night. OROY Quentin Nelson DROY Leighton Vanderesch CPOTY Andrew Luck OPOY Patrick Mahomes DPOY Khalil Mack COY Matt Nagy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 21 hours ago, BayRaider said: DPOY definitely Donald. OPOY Mahomes. Although Brees will get MVP. COTY Payton OROY definitely Barkely. DROY This is gonna be tough. Denzel Ward, Derwin James, Roquan Smith, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Vander Esch... all candidates. Actually DROY is easy IMO. Darius Leonard. Leading the NFL in tackles, has 6 sacks and an INT - and a huge reason why the Colts are playing league average defense, which is a big improvement for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Mack's defense is the best in the NFL and by a considerable margin. Donald's defense is 26th. If you think that Donald has it wrapped up, you're going to be really surprised on NFL Honors night. OROY Quentin Nelson DROY Leighton Vanderesch CPOTY Andrew Luck OPOY Patrick Mahomes DPOY Khalil Mack COY Matt Nagy In yards we're 20th and the Bears are 4th. In points we're 20th and the Bears are 2nd. Donald has 6.5 more sacks, 10 more tackles for loss and 19 more QB hits. The difference in their individual stats is a pro bowl caliber season from an average defender. That doesn't get into other stuff like PFF where Donald has him too. In DVOA the Bears are 1st, but the Rams are 17th. And this as the only team in the NFL that has to play both the Chiefs and the Saints - two historically good offenses. If we remove them, the Rams average points per game allowed would be 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 8:09 AM, ChazStandard said: Luck has probably nailed-down CPoY at this point, unless Watt goes on a tear down the stretch. Offensive player of the year is going to be close between Gurley and Hill. I would give it to Gurley at this point. Defensive player of the year is not a discussion, it's Donald. Coach of the year - harder to say. Reid/McVay/Payton are the candidates, (Bill O'Brien could be darkhorse, 8 game winstreak and counting). Stop reading my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 OROY - Saquan Barkley DROY - Darius Leonard OPOY - Patrick Mahomes/Drew Brees DPOY - Aaron Donald CPOY - Andrew Luck Coach - Sean Payton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward4HOF Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 8:26 AM, Raves said: Although DPOY is 100% Donald, I would like to see Sheldon Rankins get some love this year in the conversation, much like Cam Jordan did last year. Dude has been a beast and has like 7 or 8 sacks from DT as well. I'm sorry, but Rankins has to outside the Top 10 in rankings for DPOY, at this point; he has very little other accompanying actions to support his case. For instance, I don't even think Donald has it sewn up. I agree that were the season to end today, he should win it, but I believe there are 6-8 other players that can still make a case and overtake Donald... The Watt brothers (JJ--45Tkls, 5FF, 6Stfs | TJ--50 Tkls, 4 FF, 5 Stfs), Chris Jones (INT/TD/4 PDs), Von Miller (4 FF, 4 Stfs, 1 INT), and Myles Garrett (3FF, 3PD) The only thing separating Donald from these guys if 3-5 sacks...which might be a great starting point, but not the end all, be all, of the conversation. And what about Harrison Smith (59 Tkls, 3 Sacks, 3 INTs, 3 Stfs, 1 FF) or heck, Kiko Alonso (3 Sacks, 95 Tkls, 3 FF, 3 INTs, 6 PDs...too bad he's on a losing team), and my dark horse? Darius Leonard--(ROY candidate--114 Tkls, 6 Sacks, 4 FF, 2 FR, 1 INT, 3 PDs, and 6 Stfs)--tell me there's a better Rookie! But actually, I guess you aren't too far off; the voters tend to go for massive amounts of one 'Glory stat', over a combination of great numbers across the board. If Rankins turns on the jets, and gets another 7-8 sacks in these last few games, he may start garnering more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 22 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: Meh, it ain’t really a conversation though. Donald is running away with it since Mack missed games. I was going to say the same thing. It's like saying 5 + 5 = 10, but 9 and 11 deserve to be in the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward4HOF Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 hours ago, FrantikRam said: Actually DROY is easy IMO. Darius Leonard. Leading the NFL in tackles, has 6 sacks and an INT - and a huge reason why the Colts are playing league average defense, which is a big improvement for them. Yeah, like I just mentioned... Darius Leonard--(114 Tkls, 6 Sacks, 4 FF, 2 FR, 1 INT, 3 PDs, and 6 Stfs)--tell me there's a better Rookie! Tell me there's one who's even close. I admit, there are a lot of good defensive rookie this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I think Donald, Luck, Barkley, and Brees/Mahomes are big time frontrunners for DPOY, CPOTY, OROY, and MVP/OPOY. It will be hard to unseat them. COTY could go to a number of guys, but I'm leaning towards the underdogs of Nagy or O'Brien. DROY is a total tossup. So many good defensive rookies this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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