Danger Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, Elky said: Hint: Wentz isn't as great as everyone thinks he is. He IS a top 10 Quarterback. HINT: He still wasn't fully recovered this season HINT: Hardly anyone else on this team aside from Ertz, Cox, and Brooks were playing well this season. Literally everyone else was playing 2 levels lower than they did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, Danger said: He IS a top 10 Quarterback. HINT: He still wasn't fully recovered this season HINT: Hardly anyone else on this team aside from Ertz, Cox, and Brooks were playing well this season. Literally everyone else was playing 2 levels lower than they did last season. So you jst admitted that the team responds to Foles better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Elky said: So you jst admitted that the team responds to Foles better. Yes, but that's not the fault of Wentz. The team needs to look themselves in the mirror and actually give a damn when Wentz is in there. Wentz offers so much more than Foles, if the team actually tried as hard for Wentz as they did for Foles, well, look at how they did last season before Wentz went down. Proof is in the pudding. No one expected Wentz to be a savior in his 2nd season so they were actually still giving it their all. This isn't on Wentz, nor is it on Foles. This is on the rest of the team to do their damn job. And we need to fire Jim Schwartz. Dude is a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Trading Wentz would be hilariously stupid. I hope they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 would philly take our 1st rounder and Brady for Wentz in a hypothetical situation? doesn't seem too bad to me. philly becomes instant best team in the league and will have a few years at another SB title. pats can start the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Art_Vandalay said: I'm one of the few in the Eagles forum with this take. I think Carson is the better QB, but not exactly a better fit for Philly. Plus his constant injuries are worrisome. I say sell high. Trading a QB coming off of 2 season ending injuries, & missing a ton of games, with below 0.500 record the last season, & not being able to motivate his team to play hard (compared to his QB competion)... is the definition of selling low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellChippy Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Elky said: So you jst admitted that the team responds to Foles better. Let’s not forget they were very close to blowing both the Rams game and the Texans game. Defense blowing leads and being awful in the fourth quarter has been the real problem all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Trading a QB coming off of 2 season ending injuries, & missing a ton of games, with below 0.500 record the last season, & not being able to motivate his team to play hard (compared to his QB competion)... is the definition of selling low. He's a year removed from an MVP caliber season, is 26 years old, and still has two years on his rookie contract with an upcoming garbage QB class. And how many teams are in need of a QB? Miami, Cincy, Jags, Broncos, Giants, Tampa Philly got a 1st and change for an old washed up Sam Bradford a few years ago. What can they get for Wentz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 If Im Foles Id stay in Philly. There is something to be said to be in a situation where you are happy and comfortable in. If Foles go to another team he is going to end up like Keenum right now in Denver. Keenum was in the perfect situation in Minny with the weapons he had and Shurmur as the OC. Now I know Shurmur left to take the HC job with the Giants so things wouldve been different even if Keenum stayed in Minny. Foles situation is different because Pederson isnt going anywhere because he is the HC. So Foles can continue being in the same situation. Wentz is the starting QB. Anyone who thinks Foles is better than Wentz needs to reevaluate things. Wentz is better. Its tough to have the type of season Wentz had in 2017 again not to mention do that after coming off a serious injury. I dont know if many people were aware of just how bad of an injury Wentz suffered. Wentz is going to be fine as long as he gets healthy. Foles is in the perfect situation because there is no pressure on him, Wentz does have an injury history so having a reliable backup is needed. Also Foles is a hero in Philly. If he goes somewhere else and sneeze too hard and make the fans upset he will become a villain right away. So why be miserable somewhere else when you can be happy, loved, and comfortable with no pressure in Philly? Philly needs Foles as well. So its a win-win on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 3:17 PM, pnies20 said: They need to trade Wentz for multiple high picks and keep Foles. He’s always been the better QB. Hope that's a joke. If not please stop. Players are doing what they always seem to do when the backup is inserted. Step up their game knowing they have to to have a chance. Why this happens and players dont feel the need to do this when the FQB is in, is frustrating. Watched it occur for years with damn near every McNabb backup. It's the Superman Complex. Where players assume the Starter will carry them rather than the other way around. Nick Foles is not better then Carson Wentz but the players around him including the HC who once again changed his offense to suit Foles, are playing well above what they were, the first 3/4 of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 12:13 PM, eagles18 said: He definitely deserves to start in this league and it begins in philly. Give him a HC\OC and he’ll be great No way. He is best used as a backup. He goes bonkers when he has to come in for an injured starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 7 hours ago, stl4life07 said: If Im Foles Id stay in Philly. There is something to be said to be in a situation where you are happy and comfortable in. If Foles go to another team he is going to end up like Keenum right now in Denver. Keenum was in the perfect situation in Minny with the weapons he had and Shurmur as the OC. Now I know Shurmur left to take the HC job with the Giants so things wouldve been different even if Keenum stayed in Minny. Foles situation is different because Pederson isnt going anywhere because he is the HC. So Foles can continue being in the same situation. Wentz is the starting QB. Anyone who thinks Foles is better than Wentz needs to reevaluate things. Wentz is better. Its tough to have the type of season Wentz had in 2017 again not to mention do that after coming off a serious injury. I dont know if many people were aware of just how bad of an injury Wentz suffered. Wentz is going to be fine as long as he gets healthy. Foles is in the perfect situation because there is no pressure on him, Wentz does have an injury history so having a reliable backup is needed. Also Foles is a hero in Philly. If he goes somewhere else and sneeze too hard and make the fans upset he will become a villain right away. So why be miserable somewhere else when you can be happy, loved, and comfortable with no pressure in Philly? Philly needs Foles as well. So its a win-win on both sides. Foles might want a chance to go to a place where a team believes in him to be a starter though. Also, he might get a decent contract thrown his way. It would be tough to turn down that kind of opportunity. Personally, I'd like to see what he can do on a team that really views him as their guy. If I had to put money on it, he's not a long term solution, but stranger things have happened I guess. I don't think he's been anywhere where the coaching staff viewed him as the top dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Foles with the weapons Tampa has would be really fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Keep Nick. Get everything you can from Jon Gruden in a Carson Wentz trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 if i was philly i’d try try try try to keep him if i could just as an insurance policy plus seems as if he’s been great to have around for them just as a team guy miss me with the nonsense of he is their starter but they should keep him around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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