Dessie Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: "This staff does this, repetitively. They preach competition, preach overlooking draft status." You certainly made a point of saying the staff repeatedly ignores competition in favor of draft status. . Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyghost Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: "This staff does this, repetitively. They preach competition, preach overlooking draft status." You certainly made a point of saying the staff repeatedly ignores competition in favor of draft status. If this isn't a major issue, why bring it up? In fact, I'd say the Raiders have had a pretty good track record in rewarding guys who showed out in TC and the preseason (Latham, Autry, McGee, Richard) and moving on from those who don't (Tyler Wilson). Again, the real issue is not the Raiders are letting the right guys go and sticking with the wrong guys, it's that the majority of the defensive roster is made up of the wrong guys. Enough people on this forum have criticized the offseason the Raiders had, and even picks from a year ago (Jihad Ward). The fact that the staff was able to let go of a 3rd round pick in Calhoun shows there is honesty in the building about the defensive roster. Hopefully it serves as somewhat of a wakeup call for both the team and fans, alike. Ok, we're talking about 2 different things. I thought you were asking for a list of guys we cut who have shown out elsewhere. Which is small to insignificant. But now you're asking for the list of guys we hold onto or pump up too big and too long. Or guys who they talk up and move around to new positions, who never work out. That list is plenty. And no, while I did put forth a point about draft status specifically in the case of Calhoun - I did not center my points around a draft status problem as you say I did. I centered it around the staff being stuck for reasons I cannot understand on guys who underperform repetitively. I've been patiently trying to respond a number of times now, but now I'm getting annoyed and done replying. Read my posts and quote what I wrote and how I wrote it in it's full context and meaning, if you want to actually discuss it. Don't spin garbage to fit a needlessly argumentative narrative you like to hear yourself say, just so you can feel important on a message board on topics about nothing generally important in life. I have time to talk Raiders, no time to talk garbage. You and Dessie win all the points and 100% correct all around, but that's definitely the end of it on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, holyghost said: You and Dessie win all the points and 100% correct all around, but that's definitely the end of it on my end. Hail Hydra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD1123 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Panthers cut Boulware!!!! GET EM REG!!!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Love this time of year. The overreaction to the backend roster. The LB position was among the worst in the league. Something had to give. Going to be a long long long year on defense. About week 1 and there isn't a LB on the roster you can trust starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 minute ago, BigD1123 said: Panthers cut Boulware!!!! GET EM REG!!!!! lol LOL... right? Who was that just hyping the f outta him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigD1123 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 24 minutes ago, big_palooka said: LOL... right? Who was that just hyping the f outta him? IT WAS ME!!!!!! I still say we should get him! Just to make me happy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyghost Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: Nothing earth shattering there in cuts or keeps. Wouldn't mind seeing Mcgill IR or cut, Hamilton / McDonald expendable, Kirkland IR if he is to miss significant time. But I imagine those 4 are the intechangeable bottom of the 53 anyway. Hood is the only draft pick to be cut, and it seems they hid him by not playing him. Just noting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Thought Jenkins had a nice game v the Cowboys. Good depth at least. Calhoun has been a mixed bag. Looked decent vs Arizona, but ultimately he was in the wrong position his rookie year. Think he's better than Ward, still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I read jenkins was put on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, dante9876 said: I read jenkins was put on IR. I did as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, RaiderX said: Calhoun has been a mixed bag. Looked decent vs Arizona, but ultimately he was in the wrong position his rookie year. Think he's better than Ward, still. They don't really play the position so it's tough to compare. I was a big Calhoun fan when he was coming out. He profiled pretty well as an athlete and had multiple ears of production at Michigan State. I honestly think the weight he added didn't help him and he should of stayed at 250-60 but just gained strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmoon8081 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: Is that officially the largest defensive line in the NFL? Everyone on that list but Mack is pushing 300 lbs and over. No wonder we struggle with pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, BigD1123 said: IT WAS ME!!!!!! I still say we should get him! Just to make me happy lol No amount of anything will ever make @big_palooka happy. He's happy being miserable. BP brings the level headedness, which I always have respected. Although I am curious what he thinks of the roster moves himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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