patriotsheatyan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I'd say a bit of both, about equal. I think people are undervaluing how good Cam was at a certain point in his career. But the Panthers also had some loaded rosters as well. 2013 & 2015 were really good teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Not to say that Ron hasn't been great at certain points, but the fact that Cam has never had more than 1 good skill position player on offense at the same time speaks volumes to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Cam was a beast back in the day. Rivera i never really thought was ever top 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Too many long sentence Panther threads lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Out of those options, I'd say the two-headed monster of Cam and the threat he offered back when he was genuinely really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilpimp972 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Cam was running wild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChancellor Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, evilpimp972 said: Cam was running wild Quite literally and figuratively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Now that the Panthers are 6-2 without Newton during Newton’s career, has anyone changed their mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 8:00 PM, ET80 said: On 9/17/2019 at 8:17 PM, MKnight82 said: The defense. Column C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchie Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Luke Kuechly, and a top 5 defense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPanther89 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It's both. No coach is going to have great success without a good QB. Cam has certainly carried the offense and willed them to victories on his accord in spite of supporting cast and bad OC's in the past. Ron's a great defensive mind. But he has some bad decision making skills at times. Not kicking a FG on 4th and 1 to go up 7 was one of them last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Rivera by a little bit. Only 3 winning seasons in 8 full seasons, and the defense had more to do with those winning seasons than the offense or Newton, with the exception of 2015 which was about equal. That said, Newton's contribution to the entire offense is underrated because he's been such a force in the running game and that's often overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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