patriotsheatyan Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Putting aside smoking video. This is, at this point, almost certainly his last season in Washington. Up until now the team hasn’t been bad while he’s been coach and he hasn’t had much to work with. But his team is now 0-4 and he’s made the playoffs once in five (soon to be six) years, as a one and doned 9-7 team no less. How much of Washington’s trouble under Gruden have been because of Gruden? Assuming he’s fired this season, does he deserve an opportunity elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I have him high on my list. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I don't see any qualities of Jay Gruden that I would want in a head coach or offensive coordinator. Am I missing something? Aside from the "Gruden" title, what makes this guy any better than Brian Schottenheimer? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) I can see him being a decent offensive coordinator but based off his recent video, I question his decision making and leadership. Especially, because it happened during the season Therefore, I could not see him being a strong head coach Edited October 6, 2019 by rocky_rams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, rocky_rams said: I can see him being a decent offensive coordinator but based off his recent video, I question his decision making and leadership. Especially, because it happened during the season Therefore, I could not see him being a strong head coach For smoking a joint? Gotta be honest I’m not sure that qualifies as bad decision making especially if he didn’t know he was being filmed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Snyder usually doesnt have patience and has given him more than a fair shot. He misses Sean McVay and its showing. Horrible play caller and doesnt motivate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilpimp972 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 His record is pretty bad but he made Cousins look good ... Still, he should be fired because he doesn't fit their rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Bearerofnews said: I have him high on my list. To be blunt, the Skins' FO may fall prey to the grass is greener on the other side syndrome by blazing a trail for someone from another organization to take over the team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 He's out of a job by 4:20 et today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 There are some terrible puns and dad jokes in this thread. Someone needs to weed out the bad ones and get this thread back on track before it goes up in smoke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Trentwannabe said: There are some terrible puns and dad jokes in this thread. Someone needs to weed out the bad ones and get this thread back on track before it goes up in smoke. It's a chronic issue for a hotboxed coach. Jokes aside, I blame Dan Snyder for a good deal of the losing. It's been a long time since a head coach has had real success in Washington. Gruden helped Cousins look like gold, had Alex Smith looking decent, Colt McCoy hasn't been terrible, and even Keenum played ok by Keenum standards. Snyder broke the bank for RG3 against Shanahan's wishes and now apparently did much of the same with Haskins, who I never understood as a 1st or even 2nd rounder. Until Snyder stops meddling, I don't see any coach having any real success. I know some of the onus falls on the coach to work with what he's got, but I feel like Gruden has checked out, at least in part, under the realization that he'll never get the type of control he needs to be successful. Jay will probably land an OC spot next year, if he doesn't Kingsbury or Gase his way into another HC gig by failing upwards. I've actually scratched my head a few times with Redskins drafts, and if Snyder is so anal about having "his" QB, I have to assume he gets like that for many positions in the draft and free agency. That's almost always a recipe for disaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Can't evaluate anybody on that dumpster fire of a franchise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 12 hours ago, footbull3196 said: For smoking a joint? Gotta be honest I’m not sure that qualifies as bad decision making especially if he didn’t know he was being filmed Not for only smoking a joint. First, for being out that late during the season. Second for looking like he was intoxicated and sitting on the floor. Third, for approaching a girl while married? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Id certainly have him on an offeaive staff if he became available, as an oc or a position coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 hours ago, rocky_rams said: Not for only smoking a joint. First, for being out that late during the season. Second for looking like he was intoxicated and sitting on the floor. Third, for approaching a girl while married? I'll give you the last one, but I dont think the other two are a big deal. Plus, players are out that late during the season all the time and nobody bats an eye if they miss a curfew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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