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MNF: Eagles vs Giants - The Quest for a 6-10 division winner!


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6 minutes ago, Eagles $5$ said:

Lol he's a rookie and I have hope... he can make guys miss, and can accelerate with the best of them. But his vision is bad, and makes bad decisions,

How don’t you score on this play?

Out of all the places to run, you choose running into your team mates back.

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1 minute ago, RuskieTitan said:

You clearly haven't seen some of the players who have made it in.

It's Hall of Fame, not Hall of Statistical Winners.

Joe flipping Namath is in for his big mouth.

  • 62-63-4 career record
  • led the league in picks 4 times
  • Had a good game in the Super Bowl but not an MVP game ( The D , the O-line, and Snell dominated that game)
    • Snell was the real MVP but Namath won the popularity contest

Gale Sayers is in for 56 career TDs. He played in pretty much 4 3/4 seasons. (and 2 games each as a shell of himself in 2 more years)

Jim Kelly is in for... getting carried to Super Bowls I guess?

 

Eli can go in for a compiling stats career topped with 8 close to brilliant playoff games leading to 2 Super Bowls and 2 MVPs of those Super Bowls.

If he retires this year he will be 7th in yards and 7th in TDs.

He will be Warren Moon combined with Jim Plunkett = Hall of Fame

 

Tarkenton was 15 games over .500 but mediocre to bad in the playoffs. (6-5 with 11 TDs and 17 picks)

Would you trade away 2 Super Bowls for 15 more regular season wins?

He is also part of one of the 10 greatest plays in NFL History  (I think getting away from the sack was as impressive as the catch)

 

Eli is a Hall of Famer  (coming from an Eagles fan)

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8 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Joe flipping Namath is in for his big mouth.

  • 62-63-4 career record
  • led the league in picks 4 times
  • Had a good game in the Super Bowl but not an MVP game ( The D , the O-line, and Snell dominated that game)
    • Snell was the real MVP but Namath won the popularity contest

Gale Sayers is in for 56 career TDs. He played in pretty much 4 3/4 seasons. (and 2 games each as a shell of himself in 2 more years)

Jim Kelly is in for... getting carried to Super Bowls I guess?

 

Eli can go in for a compiling stats career topped with 8 close to brilliant playoff games leading to 2 Super Bowls and 2 MVPs of those Super Bowls.

If he retires this year he will be 7th in yards and 7th in TDs.

He will be Warren Moon combined with Jim Plunkett = Hall of Fame

 

Tarkenton was 15 games over .500 but mediocre to bad in the playoffs. (6-5 with 11 TDs and 17 picks)

Would you trade away 2 Super Bowls for 15 more regular season wins?

He is also part of one of the 10 greatest plays in NFL History  (I think getting away from the sack was as impressive as the catch)

 

Eli is a Hall of Famer  (coming from an Eagles fan)

By this rational Joe Flacco has an argument for the Hall of Fame. If he can string together 6000 yards over a couple seasons he''ll be top 15 in yards.

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17 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said:

Wentz has Missed a 1/2 a season worth of games too.

Greg Ward also dropped the 4th Wentz TD pass drop this season. Three were routine catches. The tie-game ball that Agholor dropped against New England was in both hands.

Dak is pretty, and he runs for TDs, and he sure piles on the stats against bad teams, but he's not a better QB than Wentz.

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12 minutes ago, Malik said:

By this rational Joe Flacco has an argument for the Hall of Fame. If he can string together 6000 yards over a couple seasons he''ll be top 15 in yards.

Flacco put together a 4 game stretch for the ages but the rest of his career does not approach Eli.

Top 15 in yards is a Straw Man when I said Eli is 7th in yards and 7th in TDs.

Flacco is 164 TDs and about 16,750 yards behind Eli. He also has 1 less Super Bowl and 1 less Super Bowl MVP award.

If Flacco wins another Super Bowl as a starter, takes the MVP award in that game, throws 150 more TDs and 15k more yards then we can talk.

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8 hours ago, SkippyX said:

Flacco put together a 4 game stretch for the ages but the rest of his career does not approach Eli.

Top 15 in yards is a Straw Man when I said Eli is 7th in yards and 7th in TDs.

Flacco is 164 TDs and about 16,750 yards behind Eli. He also has 1 less Super Bowl and 1 less Super Bowl MVP award.

If Flacco wins another Super Bowl as a starter, takes the MVP award in that game, throws 150 more TDs and 15k more yards then we can talk.

How does the rest of his career not approach Eli? He has more playoff births, more wins, and better win percentage in the playoffs. He was a better playoff QB than Eli. So if he compiles a bunch of yards for a couple more seasons he all of a sudden turns into a different QB? 

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8 hours ago, Malik said:

By this rational Joe Flacco has an argument for the Hall of Fame. 

People still don't think Eli will be in the HOF? There are plenty of ways to get rich. You can work really hard and have a good career, you can hit the lottery, you can live below your means for a long time and save, etc. There are plenty of ways to get into the Hall, and one of those ways is to win two Super Bowl MVP's and play forever to be top 10 in every major statistical category.

Whether you think he deserves it is irrelevant. He's getting in and it's not debatable.

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