TENINCH Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I think he's more valuable to his team this season than any other QB was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Nothing crazy, he was easily the #2 candidate. I think his play fell off a bit towards the end (by MVP standards), while Jackson kept it up and lead the best offense in the league, which is why I think Jackson deserved the award (and will 100% win it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Wilson is definitely the real MVP. That team is 1-15 without him. In baseball he’d have the biggest war by a mile. Plus he had the #2 statistic season behind Lamar. However, NFL basically gives it to best QB on best record. So it will be Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 hours ago, lolsurebro said: I don't see how he contributed more to his team than Lamar did for the Ravens. I think Seattle would be far worse off without Wilson than Baltimore would be without Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) If Mahomes or Brees were healthy they would have won it this season instead of Jackson. Edited January 22, 2020 by patriotsheatyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, DawgX said: I think Seattle would be far worse off without Wilson than Baltimore would be without Lamar. Except that's not how voters vote on MVP. It's never about the most value to the team. It's about who is the best player on the best offense in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotanKing Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I wanna see how Wilson would do under a coach like Shanahan or Andy Reid. Pete Carroll really limits Wilson's full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hukos said: Except that's not how voters vote on MVP. It's never about the most value to the team. It's about who is the best player on the best offense in the NFL. I'm not disputing that. Lamar will for sure win MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've got no problem with Russell Wilson winning PFF's or SportingNews or CBS or any other made up MVP. All I better hear at ESPN is Lamar for MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 If most valuable is best stats on one of the best teams then its Lamar Jackson. If its who's team completely falls apart without them and a replacement level player in their spot, its Wilson. Either way Lamar Jackson is the clearly the offensive player of the year. Lamar is going to win the MVP voting and he should win the MVP voting. We all know his job was much easier than Russell Wilson's If you add playoffs and factor them appropriately its Wilson in a landslide. In my opinion: Baltimore may have won 10 or 11 games with RG3 this year. Seattle would have won 4 or 5 games with RG3 this year. Switch those QBs and Seattle goes 9-7 while Baltimore stays about the same (with different stats) and wins a playoff game. The Ravens like themselves enough for everyone. We don't have to worship any of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 The only people think Lamar Jackson is MVP over Russell Wilson are dip****s from the media and people who only understand football from playing fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, Elky said: The only people think Lamar Jackson is MVP over Russell Wilson are dip****s from the media and people who only understand football from playing fantasy. This might be PFF's winner for football post of the year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x0x Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 2:16 PM, Hukos said: I understand what PFF is trying to do, but literally zero MVP voters think of the MVP award as the guy who contributes the most to winning. MVP goes to the leader of whatever the best offense in the NFL was. Except in the case of a legendary offensive season on a playoff team like Adrian Peterson in 2012. On 1/22/2020 at 2:49 PM, lolsurebro said: I don't see how he contributed more to his team than Lamar did for the Ravens. Lamar Jackson could be argued to have had a better defense to lean on and at least a slightly better line to help in blocking (Ingram had 5.0 YPC to Carson's 4.4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 2:53 PM, animaltested said: To build off this, Seattle had one of the higher passing efficiency ratings, while having one of the worst pass blocking units in the NFL. Russell Wilson was a quarter inch away from sweeping the 49ers, with guys like Travis Homer, Jacob Hollister, David Moore and a rookie WR that cant run routes being important offensive targets. And who knows what happens in Green Bay if Malik Turner doesn't drop that pass. Here is something to consider; in the last few weeks of the season and playoffs, Germaine Ifedi was probably the 3rd best offensive player (Non Russell) I agree. Objectively, Seattle really wasn't a very good football team - what we did to them the 2nd time we played is about how I view this Seattle team in terms of talent. So the fact that they won 11 games - and 4 of their losses were to the Rams, Saints, Ravens and Niners - is a minor miracle. Not only that, but the Seahawks won a playoff game and came within one possession of a 13 win team on the road in the divisional round. Simply put - they played better in the playoffs than the Ravens did. Which brings me to another point - playoffs should count toward the MVP discussion. There's a Super Bowl MVP - but not a "playoffs" MVP. Pet peeve of mine in all pro sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 20 hours ago, SkippyX said: If most valuable is best stats on one of the best teams then its Lamar Jackson. If its who's team completely falls apart without them and a replacement level player in their spot, its Wilson. Either way Lamar Jackson is the clearly the offensive player of the year. Lamar is going to win the MVP voting and he should win the MVP voting. We all know his job was much easier than Russell Wilson's If you add playoffs and factor them appropriately its Wilson in a landslide. In my opinion: Baltimore may have won 10 or 11 games with RG3 this year. Seattle would have won 4 or 5 games with RG3 this year. Switch those QBs and Seattle goes 9-7 while Baltimore stays about the same (with different stats) and wins a playoff game. The Ravens like themselves enough for everyone. We don't have to worship any of them. I'm struggling to see the games they win with RG3. Bengals - losing in 4th quarter before Wilson threw a TD pass Steelers - Wilson went 29-35 3 TDs and they won by 2 Cardinals - probably win Rams - won by 1 point with Wilson going 17-23 268 and 4 TDs Browns - went down 20-6, Wilson brought them back Falcons - won by 7 points, offense shut down in 2nd half Bucs - won in OT with Wilson going 29-43 378 and 5 TDs Niners - surefire loss without Wilson Eagles - possible win Vikings - loss Panthers - won by 6 with Wilson going 20-26 286 and 2 TDs I'd say they would have won 2 games - Cardinals and possibly the Eagles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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