Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Mega Ron]

4 hours ago, TVScout said:

It is more like a non-sequitur because tobacco, booze, et al are examples of self harm. How many people self infect?

Anyone sleeping with your mum.

[BobbyPhil1781]

So, Regeneron works

https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/regenerons-covid-19-outpatient-trial-prospectively-demonstrates

Ok, I'm exiting again. 

[Shanedorf]

2 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

So, Regeneron works

Making progress
A somewhat more accurate description of those results would be:

The Regeneron cocktail shows efficacy in some patients at some points in the infection -> disease continuum
Right drug, right patient, right dose, right time
Its welcome addition to the arsenal

[BobbyPhil1781]

7 minutes ago, Shanedorf said:

Making progress
A somewhat more accurate description of those results would be:

The Regeneron cocktail shows efficacy in some patients at some points in the infection -> disease continuum
Right drug, right patient, right dose, right time
Its welcome addition to the arsenal

The MATH+ seems to be doing well also so yeah this is a solid addition. And yes, your description is more correct than mine lol

[SuperBowl=best]

I've reached my limit of fearing this thing.  Ready to be normal again come heck or high water

 

Who's wiff meh

[Deadpulse]

1 hour ago, SuperBowl=best said:

I've reached my limit of fearing this thing.  Ready to be normal again come heck or high water

 

Who's wiff meh

My body is not ready for you to post in this thread

[Hunter2_1]

On 10/27/2020 at 6:28 PM, Deadpulse said:

I disagree. I have found a profound lack of productivity when most of our office was working from home. 

You have a staff motivation issue, I'd say.

[Hunter2_1]

On 10/27/2020 at 6:52 PM, acowboys62 said:

 

I do agree with people embracing nature more, but on the flip side, I have always been an outdoors person, and we got an influx of NYC people fleeing the city and the parks, trails, etc. I frequent have been absolutely trashed.  Garbage left all over, untrained dogs running free off leash (I nearly got bit but luckily my dog himself is a savage).  I while I hope people embrace nature more, those who don't treat it right or appreciate it can **** right off. 

 

Scum.

 

Oh one more thing, if we don't want working from home to be a thing going forward, can we at least accept that meetings CAN be done over the internet now, and hundreds and hundreds of internal flights from NY to Chicago or wherever just for meetings is absolutely a waste of efficiency, energy etc? Introductory meetings; fine,  fly wherever and meet people for the first time. Weekly or monthy team meetings with the same people every time? Do it over zoom, don't need to fly people all the time.

[LaFellSBXLIXMVP]

This may interest some here. I post those daily on another site, it's more accurate to compare the daily deaths per million inhabitants than the absolute totals ignoring the size of each country. I also use the 7-day moving average to avoid the usual discrepancies on weekends and so on.

So in this case Argentina is at a pace of 8 deaths per million inhabitants per day, leading the world.

* Those are the top25 countries in Deaths/ Million excluding the smaller European states.

* Commas are the decimal mark in the international system instead of dots I tried to change it but excel wont let me since it's a formula.

[Kiwibrown]

2 hours ago, LaFellSBXLIXMVP said:

This may interest some here. I post those daily on another site, it's more accurate to compare the daily deaths per million inhabitants than the absolute totals ignoring the size of each country. I also use the 7-day moving average to avoid the usual discrepancies on weekends and so on.

So in this case Argentina is at a pace of 8 deaths per million inhabitants per day, leading the world.

* Those are the top25 countries in Deaths/ Million excluding the smaller European states.

* Commas are the decimal mark in the international system instead of dots I tried to change it but excel wont let me since it's a formula.

A million PhDs will come from the covid crises, biology, math, medicine, pharmacy, nursing.. 

It is interesting seeing both 1st and 3rd world countries up the top of this chart. 

 

Probably age/fitness vs health system. 

 

I wonder if there are other environmental factors? Perhaps, altitude, housing, and socio factors like smoking and obesity. 

[LaFellSBXLIXMVP]

Argentina is enduring the longest lockdown in the world.  Argentina's government was praised by WHO and pretty much every specialist. They're in quarantine since early March. Before there was any death there police was rounding up people on public squares and detaining them because they were outside. With this they managed to hold COVID from spreading until the last month of winter there, then it reached the first peak and started to decrease it seemed they were on a european country route but a month ago it escalated absurdly quick. Their numbers are still bellow many south american countries but closing in the gap rapidly.

A Spanish paper recently tackled on the D Vitamin deficiency found in 80% of COVID's severe cases treated there and Argentinians went thru the autumn and winter indoors pretty much... Who knows?

It's kinda depressing to say the following and I'm not promoting a stoical attitude to this disease by anyone, much less to any elected official, it'd be immoral to say the least but it seems unless you are in Asia/Australia ( Cross Immunity from previous Corona viruses that circulated there?) you can't escape Covid. Government's job is to delay and minimize its' waves until there's a vaccine. OTOH if you're too successful your reward is that you gonna have an explosion of cases in a very short amount of time, causing even more problems. Argentina's case.

Now, Iran is more like USA/Brasil. Due to the size/pop and intricacies of the country the Virus is in a continuous spread, reaching every region and communities on different speeds.Slowing down a bit at times but not stopping like in Europe. Now they reached a peak of deaths that's almost 2 times higher than the peak of the previous wave back in may.

Really depressing.

[acowboys62]

19 hours ago, Shanedorf said:

I'd imagine that there would be some changes/degradation  over time - but are those changes significant ?
From a purely academic research POV, you could probably show some decline in performance- but a lesser mask is still better than no mask at all and from a public health POV, that's the message that needs to be delivered clearly and repeatedly.

The study you are suggesting would most certainly result in screaming headlines in 40 point font declaring: " MASKS DON'T WORK !!!!!"

In public health you're dealing with the public ( read: idiots) and as such those statements are held to a higher standard.

You can't make a statement so it can be understood - you have to make a statement so it cannot be misunderstood.

I would imagine any decline like you said would be minimal, maybe some other nasty stuff growing on masks but nothing to the level of COVID. And you are 100% correct, give the anti crowd an inch and next thing you knew we are back to square negative 10,000.  I may have to steal that last sentence for work purposes, love that. 

[acowboys62]

19 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

I'll answer it, because it's important.

Yes, yes, and yes. As an industry, pharma absolutely believes those 3 are diseases which cause preventable deaths, and we try and treat the side effects of those diseases. Drugs to help with kidney and liver failure from chronic alcoholism. Treatments for lung cancer from smoking. Better drugs for Type 2 diabetes are being found all the time to deal with the obesity crisis. We've tried to develop weight loss drugs for years, and there is one marketed (or at least it has been for a while). 

Now, it's entirely fair to respond that the motive was profits and pharma wasn't treating the disease in any of those changes. Fair. But the healthcare industry also has changed as it's started to realize that those types of symptom-based treatments aren't getting to the core issue. The push for access to mental health and emotional support resources is a huge part of this.

Thank you, I don't understand what is so hard about the question.  Can't say we have agreed on everything in this thread, but here, we agree 100%.I think the bolded part is huge, so much of these things start with the mental aspect IMO.  If you don't want to get better, you won't. Thank you for recognizing that all of these preventable deaths matter.  Understanding the focus currently is on the pandemic, but I really hope the same people who make the claim "one death is too many" carry that same energy from now until forever with regards to all preventable deaths. Change can happen across the board once we are on the other side of this and start building a healthier future. 

[acowboys62]

19 hours ago, TVScout said:

It is more like a non-sequitur because tobacco, booze, et al are examples of self harm. How many people self infect?

Isn't going out with out a mask or taking precautions during a pandemic in a sense self harm? Leaning more towards self ignorance/stupidity/etc but still self harm...just you aren't spending any money to inflict self harm.  

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

9 hours ago, SuperBowl=best said:

I've reached my limit of fearing this thing.  Ready to be normal again come heck or high water

 

9 hours ago, SuperBowl=best said: