bucsfan333 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Some language. But a good explanation of what the vaccine is and actually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizeGuy Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) @Shanedorf @Deadpulse @ramssuperbowl99 Should we be worried about the mutation to the spike protein in Europe? My wife said the only way (likely) the vaccines wont be effective is if the spike protein mutates drastically. I asked her about the mutation in Europe, but like any good scientist, she said she doesnt have enough info on exactly what the vaccines target in the spike protein and where the mutation occured. Talking COVID gives her anxiety, so Id like to lean on y'all. Edited December 19, 2020 by WizeGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, WizeGuy said: @Shanedorf @Deadpulse @ramssuperbowl99 Should we be worried about the mutation to the spike protein in Europe? My wife said the only way (likely) the vaccines wont be effective is if the spike protein mutates drastically. I asked her about the mutation in Europe, but like any good scientist, she said she doesnt have enough info on exactly what the vaccines target in the spike protein and where the mutation occured. Talking COVID gives her anxiety, so Id like to lean on y'all. From the thread I just shared: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Mega Ron said: Christmas in the UK is cancelled. No in laws over so seeing it as a win. How do you cancel Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: How do you cancel Christmas Households aren't allowed to mix. And no international travel so Father Christmas can't come either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, WizeGuy said: @Shanedorf @Deadpulse @ramssuperbowl99 Should we be worried about the mutation to the spike protein in Europe? My wife said the only way (likely) the vaccines wont be effective is if the spike protein mutates drastically. I asked her about the mutation in Europe, but like any good scientist, she said she doesnt have enough info on exactly what the vaccines target in the spike protein and where the mutation occured. Talking COVID gives her anxiety, so Id like to lean on y'all. Too early to tell if we should be worried in terms of vaccine effectiveness. As @bucsfan333 pointed out, the vaccine targets the protein it uses to spread, so its not very likely. On the flip side of that, early indications is that this strain spreads faster and that is the only noticeable (at this point in time) difference. That COULD mean the way it infects is different enough to render the vaccine less effective; however again, it isnt likely. I think we should be concerned about it overall though. Vaccine implementation WILL be slow, especially in the US. Public diligence is at an all time low and we saw record numbers of infections just a few weeks ago. Imagine a noticeably faster spreading version of this hitting us?? It could absolutely devastate the healthcare system that is already hanging by a thread in most populace places. Holidays, lax attitudes, and a faster spreading strain is a recipe for disaster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 10 hours ago, vikesfan89 said: How do you cancel Christmas I think the uk is just going to go straight from December 24 to December 26 and make up for it by having 2021 be a very random leap year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Mega Ron said: Households aren't allowed to mix. And no international travel so Father Christmas can't come either. For how long? I have a buddy whose daughter and son in law were supposed to go back to England after the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: For how long? I have a buddy whose daughter and son in law were supposed to go back to England after the 1st. I think all international flights are done for the time being. They should be preparing for an extended stay. This new strain is apparently a lot more contagious than it already is which is crazy to bring with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Free: Your questions about the coronavirus vaccine, answered https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/17/covid-vaccines-what-you-need-to-know/?arc404=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) This is who the CDC recommends for the 2nd round of vaccinations. I’m surprised they could fit so many compared to the first group.https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/20/adults-over-75-frontline-essential-workers-should-be-in-second-covid-19-vaccine-priority-group-says-cdc-advisory-panel/ Edited December 21, 2020 by Xenos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: I think all international flights are done for the time being. They should be preparing for an extended stay. This new strain is apparently a lot more contagious than it already is which is crazy to bring with. Gotcha, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 1:46 PM, WizeGuy said: @Shanedorf @Deadpulse @ramssuperbowl99 Should we be worried about the mutation to the spike protein in Europe? My wife said the only way (likely) the vaccines wont be effective is if the spike protein mutates drastically. I asked her about the mutation in Europe, but like any good scientist, she said she doesnt have enough info on exactly what the vaccines target in the spike protein and where the mutation occured. Talking COVID gives her anxiety, so Id like to lean on y'all. MoL thinks there is some weird internal politics going on in UK tbh and its a little early to know for sure how big a deal this is. Could easily just be Boris being Boris, tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 New variant is obvi real. But UK gov is playing fast and loose w science here in touting their 70% number, etc. etc. Could be using this new variant (one of many identified since January) to justify a u-turn on their failed decision to lift lockdown early pre-Christmas Could also want to distract from Brexit deadline debacle Or any number of things going on in Boris' brain So as hard as it is to wait I think we need to wait until real science folks opine on what this all means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, mission27 said: New variant is obvi real. But UK gov is playing fast and loose w science here in touting their 70% number, etc. etc. Could be using this new variant (one of many identified since January) to justify a u-turn on their failed decision to lift lockdown early pre-Christmas Could also want to distract from Brexit deadline debacle Or any number of things going on in Boris' brain So as hard as it is to wait I think we need to wait until real science folks opine on what this all means I’m worried that the US is still waiting too long to ban travel from and to the UK for now. This feels like what happened in March when we waited too long to stop travel to Europe. And I know that the vaccine is supposed to work against this mutation as well. It’s just annoying that it’s even more infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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