Kiwibrown Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: I genuinely like Njoku and would love to see him in Chicago as a focal point of that offense. However, I fully believe Harrison Bryant will be a stud as well. He has played like a solid 2nd te at best. I agree with LGB, his best football is a head of him, he just has a very long road a head before he is consistent enough to that. Heck learning off Hooper, who is a far superior player with half the talent might be the best thing he can do for a year. If we are going to trade him it needs to be for a 2nd next year not a 5th this year 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: He has played like a solid 2nd te at best. I agree with LGB, his best football is a head of him, he just has a very long road a head before he is consistent enough to that. Heck learning off Hooper, who is a far superior player with half the talent might be the best thing he can do for a year. If we are going to trade him it needs to be for a 2nd next year not a 5th this year You’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, candyman93 said: You’re setting yourself up for disappointment. How many years running is this? 21? All of my adult life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 I think we are done making moves. I think the last move we make is trading Njoku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Is there any way that Berry just says no to a trade and just have him play this year + walk next year for a comp pick? I mean if he sits out, he won't get a credited season right so why not just not do a trade and hope he comes around once live football action gets closer unless its a really good offer. I hate trade requests because it screws the team twice. One for being almost forced to get rid of a good player and again because you almost never get equal value back since everyone is lowballing the team. There has to be some sort of negative consequence from the players side of things to stop this crap from happening----especailly at the college level with the transfer portal. Edited July 7, 2020 by AkronsWitness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 7 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: Is there any way that Berry just says no to a trade and just have him play this year + walk next year for a comp pick? I mean if he sits out, he won't get a credited season right so why not just not do a trade and hope he comes around once live football action gets closer unless its a really good offer. I hate trade requests because it screws the team twice. One for being almost forced to get rid of a good player and again because you almost never get equal value back since everyone is lowballing the team. There has to be some sort of negative consequence from the players side of things to stop this crap from happening----especailly at the college level with the transfer portal. That’s the issue with the request becoming public, the team definitely loses leverage. The fact of the matter is Njoku can force a trade by simply showing up and going through the motions in practice and being a distraction. Inevitably you take the best offer and move on. And honestly from his perspective, I don’t blame him. This is his 4th HC since he’s been here. We look like an absolute mess compared to most of the league. Taking fandom out of the equation, id want nothing to do with the Cleveland Browns either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: That’s the issue with the request becoming public, the team definitely loses leverage. The fact of the matter is Njoku can force a trade by simply showing up and going through the motions in practice and being a distraction. Inevitably you take the best offer and move on. And honestly from his perspective, I don’t blame him. This is his 4th HC since he’s been here. We look like an absolute mess compared to most of the league. Taking fandom out of the equation, id want nothing to do with the Cleveland Browns either. Whats incredible is that more players haven’t done this. I can’t blame guys for not wanting to be here. They have a very small window to win and make money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Whats incredible is that more players haven’t done this. I can’t blame guys for not wanting to be here. They have a very small window to win and make money. They’d better not goof up this year or I think you may see guys like Myles or Baker looking for greener pastures as well. I know a lot of the board thinks Baker need to “prove it”, but I’ve seen a lot more from Baker than I have the organization as a whole. We can’t keep 💩 the bed and expecting people to be content with out incompetence when there other options available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelbell Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, zelbell said: 11M is a lot more doable to trade than 15M if need be. But it looks more likely we won’t get clowney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: 11M is a lot more doable to trade than 15M if need be. But it looks more likely we won’t get clowney. Yup, I think this takes us out of the running for Clowney. Not that I thought he was going to sign here anyway. Hopefully Vernon stays healthy. His play was underwhelming last year, but I don't think he was as bad as some on here make it seem. Just certainly wasn't worth $15 million a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: 11M is a lot more doable to trade than 15M if need be. But it looks more likely we won’t get clowney. I get that other teams would be more interested in paying him 8 million instead of 15 but our dead cap hit in a trade would go from 0 to 7 million so this says to me that Vernon is a Brown in 2020. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelbell Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: I get that other teams would be more interested in paying him 8 million instead of 15 but our dead cap hit in a trade would go from 0 to 7 million so this says to me that Vernon is a Brown in 2020. Yup he’ll be on the roster based on this today. now it comes down to what we do with the cash we saved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, zelbell said: Yup he’ll be on the roster based on this today. now it comes down to what we do with the cash we saved Roll it over. It’s not like we were hurting for cap space before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We save 4 million by guaranteeing he’s on the roster this year. Good deal imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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