TVScout Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 As of November 26 the Cowboys have the worst special teams in the League. After today they certainly even worse: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst/2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 7:12 AM, LieutenantGains said: You can't just look at PPD in a vacuum since the league has shifted towards offense so much Standard deviations from average PPD 2007 Patriots - 3.30 1998 Vikings - 2.66 2000 Rams - 2.61 2016 Falcons - 2.58 2018 Chiefs - 2.52 2011 Packers - 2.49 2018 Saints - 2.44 I can't be bothered to do anymore right now, but thats the general gist of it. And if you want to do it by ranked as a multiple of the league average at the time, the 2007 Patriots were 86.5% above league average and the closest I can find to them is the 1998 Vikings and 2000 Rams who were in the low 70's. I don’t know about league average. However the gap between the first and second best OSE for the 1998 Vikings was 8.3% points and the 07 Patriots to the Colts was 8.8% points. Currently the Chiefs are in second place to the Ravens and are at 10.1% difference. I hadn’t calculate the PPD difference. As I think OSE is a better indicator of just how unstoppable an offense is overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 6:12 AM, LieutenantGains said: You can't just look at PPD in a vacuum since the league has shifted towards offense so much That's true but deviations from average isn't perfect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) On 11/27/2019 at 10:22 AM, Split the Sticks said: yup. but it's fair to mention the pats set that record in a 14 game schedule. The did it all off the back of HoF-er Hog Hannah This is incorrect. The NFL switched to a 16 game format for the first time that season. That team thus averaged 197.8 yards/game. https://www.patriots.com/news/a-record-in-no-rush-to-be-broken-268786 The Ravens are currently averaging 210.5 yards per game. The team to get over 3000 yards rushing with over a 200 yards per game average were the 1973 Bills. They average 220.5 yards/game in a 14 game season. No team in NFL history has ever averaged over 200 rushing yards in a 16 game season, likely because sustaining that type of explosive rushing pace is incredibly difficult to do. Multiple teams that averaged over 200 rushing yards prior to 1978, could not achieve the same result afterwards. For the Ravens they are currently on pace, but it will be a difficult task as they still have games against the 49ers, Bills, and Steelers... all with very good defenses. But if they set the record after facing the slate of defenses it will be much deserved. Edited November 29, 2019 by diamondbull424 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 11 hours ago, diamondbull424 said: This is incorrect. The NFL switched to a 16 game format for the first time that season. That team thus averaged 197.8 yards/game. https://www.patriots.com/news/a-record-in-no-rush-to-be-broken-268786 The Ravens are currently averaging 210.5 yards per game. The team to get over 3000 yards rushing with over a 200 yards per game average were the 1973 Bills. They average 220.5 yards/game in a 14 game season. No team in NFL history has ever averaged over 200 rushing yards in a 16 game season, likely because sustaining that type of explosive rushing pace is incredibly difficult to do. Multiple teams that averaged over 200 rushing yards prior to 1978, could not achieve the same result afterwards. For the Ravens they are currently on pace, but it will be a difficult task as they still have games against the 49ers, Bills, and Steelers... all with very good defenses. But if they set the record after facing the slate of defenses it will be much deserved. Yeah, I don't think they'll get it (just like I don't think we'll get the Ravens points diff record) but that shouldn't diminish anything from how impressive it is, and will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The dophins have more wins against teams with a winning record than Dallas 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Malfatron said: The dophins have more wins against teams with a winning record than Dallas QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SkippyX Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Dak is 20-3 when Zeke runs for 100+ Dak is 25-4 when Zeke runs for 90+ Dak is 30-7 when Zeke runs for 80+ Dak is 8-15 when Zeke does not run for 80+ Dak is 13-18 when Zeke does not run for 90+ Dak is 18-19 when Zeke does not run for 100+ Dak is a trailer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Teams Dallas beat this year 2-9 Giants 2-9 Giants 2-9 DC 2-9 Dolphins 3-8-1 Lions 5-6 Eagles Strength of Victory : 16-50-1 .246 Teams the Patriots beat this year: 2-9 Dolphins 2-9 DC 2-9 Giants 4-7 Jets 4-7 Jets 5-6 Eagles 5-6 Browns 6-6 Cowboys 6-5 Steelers 9-3 Bills Strength of Victory: 45-68 .398 (3 good teams and 2 door mats left) Teams the Ravens beat this year 0-11 Bengals 0-11 Bengals 2-9 Dolphins 3-7-1 Cardinals 6-5 Steelers 6-5 Rams 7-4 Texans 9-2 Seahawks 10-1 Patriots Strength of Victory 43-55-1 .439 (big bump if they beat SF and Buffalo) Teams the Eagles beat this year 9-3 Bills 8-3 Packers 6-6 Bears 4-7 Jets 2-9 DC Strength of Victory 29-28 .509 (this will tank as they face NYG 2x, Miami, and DC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iothar Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Dak is 20-3 when Zeke runs for 100+ Dak is 25-4 when Zeke runs for 90+ Dak is 30-7 when Zeke runs for 80+ Dak is 8-15 when Zeke does not run for 80+ Dak is 13-18 when Zeke does not run for 90+ Dak is 18-19 when Zeke does not run for 100+ Dak is a trailer This stat makes no sense. Running for 90+ is the same as not running for 100 no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, bucsfan333 said: Dang. And the Rams, with their 19 individual rushing days of 100+ yards (ranked 5th out of the 32 NFL teams), are the only team in the top 10 that have had every single one of their 100+ yard rushing efforts since 2015 from the same player (Todd Gurley). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, SkippyX said: Dak is 20-3 when Zeke runs for 100+ Dak is 25-4 when Zeke runs for 90+ Dak is 30-7 when Zeke runs for 80+ Dak is 8-15 when Zeke does not run for 80+ Dak is 13-18 when Zeke does not run for 90+ Dak is 18-19 when Zeke does not run for 100+ Dak is a trailer But this doesn't account for which is cause and which is effect. It could easily be that they run more when already ahead so naturally Zeke will have more rush yards in games they are leading and you are more likely to win games when you've had a lead. So is the score the cause and Zeke's yards the effect? Or vice versa? This also, of course, doesn't account for just offense but defense as well. You could can score a lot in a loss and a little in a win. For the record I do think Zeke is more the driver of how good the Cowboys' offense is on a given day, but these type of stats don't really prove that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, iothar said: This stat makes no sense. Running for 90+ is the same as not running for 100 no? No. Those games are included, but so are games where he runs for 10. Those stats the + literally means or more, not a range of 90-99 for example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, SkippyX said: Dak is 20-3 when Zeke runs for 100+ Dak is 25-4 when Zeke runs for 90+ Dak is 30-7 when Zeke runs for 80+ Dak is 8-15 when Zeke does not run for 80+ Dak is 13-18 when Zeke does not run for 90+ Dak is 18-19 when Zeke does not run for 100+ Dak is a trailer You still dont understand how to interpret stats. Which is amazing, because nearly all your post are simply box scout scoring. Try doing the inverse. Look up how well Zeke does for different levels of Daks performance. The look up team wins for Daks level of performance. Then realize that no RB is good enough to make a bad QB look good. Never in the history of the NFL. Edited November 30, 2019 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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