WindyCity Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I just have a hard time with allowing Pace to continue to mortgage more of the Bears future. Our cap is a legit mess from this offseason when he went all in. We finally have our draft capital back and now we let him burn that. If you are going QB, which we DESPERATELY need to do, then don’t saddle that QB with a lame duck staff and GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFromArgentina Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: I just have a hard time with allowing Pace to continue to mortgage more of the Bears future. Our cap is a legit mess from this offseason when he went all in. We finally have our draft capital back and now we let him burn that. If you are going QB, which we DESPERATELY need to do, then don’t saddle that QB with a lame duck staff and GM I agree. It is time to blew it all, but for me this also includes the coach. I'm not sure how likely is that the Bears can find a quarterback in future draft of the type that Nagy wants (i.e. a glorified game manager such as Alex Smith). And he will fail with any other type of quarterback, because he has shown poor capacity to adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 12 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said: If we don't make the playoffs then the rebuild needs to begin right after the week 17 game and that starts with Pace, Nagy, and all staff on offense. Let the new GM start the process before the draft and have a fire sale to gain as much draft capital as possible and start there. With COVID, there might be a good list of unexpected free agents too. Even with a playoff appearance, there's almost no option but to re-tool this roster. Keeping this defense together will leave almost no flexibility to add to the offense. I'd say a primary goal of the offseason should be to move towards better roster balance and more future flexibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I saw a CBS sports mock that had the bears taking Kellen Mond from Texas A&M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Trask is weird.He has the size of a guy who should have a cannon, but he doesn’t.But he is accurate and appears to read the field well and can run a little.Like jumbo Alex Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Trask is weird.He has the size of a guy who should have a cannon, but he doesn’t.But he is accurate and appears to read the field well and can run a little.Like jumbo Alex Smith. Was just going to say Trask is killing it lately. Looks like another 1st round QB and maybe a guy Bears will actually have a shot at. To be fair Foles also has the size of a guy who should have a cannon too but he doesn't. We don't necessarily need a guy with a cannon arm..we just need someone who's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 hours ago, topwop1 said: Was just going to say Trask is killing it lately. Looks like another 1st round QB and maybe a guy Bears will actually have a shot at. To be fair Foles also has the size of a guy who should have a cannon too but he doesn't. We don't necessarily need a guy with a cannon arm..we just need someone who's good. I agree. It is just weird to see a 6’5” 250lbs touch passer like he is. He continues to play really good football, which is positive for the Bears. Maybe they won’t have to compromise themselves with a move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 People are still trying to predict the cap and pretending to know the outcome after an unusual year. To make matters worse, some of these same fans have been saying the same thing for last 2 years that the Bears wouldn't have cap space only to be proven wrong in the end. But I guess if you keep saying it then you might be right eventually lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, WindyCity said: Trask is weird.He has the size of a guy who should have a cannon, but he doesn’t.But he is accurate and appears to read the field well and can run a little.Like jumbo Alex Smith. IDK, Smith was an athlete who never gets enough credit for what he did with his legs. I think he plays more like a Roethlisberger-sized Tom Brady as a passer, and likely a runner as well. More QB dives than scrambles. Both are more nimble than athletic, prefers to stay in the pocket make a living off pinpoint passes. Trask is getting a ton of YAC but he is throwing guys open and hitting them in stride, allowing them to make a move. He's making fast reads and Mullins isn't running the simple Urban Meyer offense, he is making some single read plays to get guys open but is doing a lot more full field reads. Trask has clearly fixed something with his technique because he has a lot more zip available and his deep ball doesn't die, so I believe that will continue as he keeps getting his mechanics cleaned up. He'll never have a howitzer but he has enough to get though rain and poor weather, as long as he is accurate I don't care. I'm down, I will be happy with a swing on Trask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JAF-N72EX said: People are still trying to predict the cap and pretending to know the outcome after an unusual year. To make matters worse, some of these same fans have been saying the same thing for last 2 years that the Bears wouldn't have cap space only to be proven wrong in the end. But I guess if you keep saying it then you might be right eventually lol. I think you plan for the worst and take advantage of anything better that comes. There will be cap mobility, no question. Fuller isn't playing at $20 mil next season, he will get extended I bet and then his contract manipulated to help with the potential down years. Others can be cut and moved on from to save money for cheaper prospects too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sugashane said: I think you plan for the worst and take advantage of anything better that comes. There will be cap mobility, no question. Fuller isn't playing at $20 mil next season, he will get extended I bet and then his contract manipulated to help with the potential down years. Others can be cut and moved on from to save money for cheaper prospects too. Yes, but by how much is anyone's guess at this point. We're in uncharted territory with C19. The league has never dealt with anything even close to this in the Salary cap era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I appreciate a QB who can manipulate the pocket more than one who is a real weapon to run. How much did trubisky really get us with that style of mobility? Almost winning the pats game the other year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 11 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said: People are still trying to predict the cap and pretending to know the outcome after an unusual year. To make matters worse, some of these same fans have been saying the same thing for last 2 years that the Bears wouldn't have cap space only to be proven wrong in the end. But I guess if you keep saying it then you might be right eventually lol. They didn't have flexibility last offseason either. There's no "proving wrong" in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: They didn't have flexibility last offseason either. There's no "proving wrong" in this case. They had plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: They had plenty. A team with cap flexibility doesn't sign Graham, Gipson, or Ifedi to be key starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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