jimkelly02 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: You can see just by watching this film that John Johnson is not the type of safety we need ššthank you! Ā Iāve been saying this for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: ššthank you! Ā Iāve been saying this for a while. What I think it is is of a lot of raider fans donāt watch film. They see a need and then they see that maybe thereās a free agent thatās highly sought after that plays the same position and they think itās an automatic fit. Scheme fit is what actually matters.Ā Edited March 15, 2021 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: What I think it is of a lot of raider fans donāt watch film. They see a need and then they see that maybe thereās a free agent thatās highly sought after that plays the same position and they think itās an automatic fit. Scheme fit is what actually matters.Ā Exactly. Ā Itās āwe need a Safety... whose #1 on the FA FS Rankings?ā... with no care to consider scheme and skill sets. It doesnāt even take watching film, you can see it in highlights, lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BigD1123 said: I would imagine we go hard after King for slot. He's another guy I'm super open to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: Exactly. Ā Itās āwe need a Safety... whose #1 on the FA FS Rankings?ā... with no care to consider scheme and skill sets. It doesnāt even take watching film, you can see it in highlights, lol Guarantee you whatās going to happen is if sometime this week we end up going with Malik hooker or ha ha Clinton Dix or Rayshawn Jenkins or treĀ Boston who are each fits for the single high scheme Ā people will be on here complaining about how we didnāt get John Johnson Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigD1123 said: I would imagine we go hard after King for slot. Ā At Free Safty Id rather have Hooker from the Colts Edited March 15, 2021 by lester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agarcia34 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Saw that Kyle Long is gonna visit. That was about as obvious as they come.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy408 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, oakdb36 said: Ā On the field heās exactly what we need and the things that he struggles with on the field we donāt need him for so it works out perfectly. The question mark on him would be is he going to get the organization problems and is he good for the locker room. The more research I did on him for that I realized that shouldnāt really be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: The more research I did on him for that I realized that shouldnāt really be an issue. What did you find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, oakdb36 said: What did you find? Itās widely believed that because he was traded from Jacksonville to Minnesota and then traded for Minnesota to Baltimore mid season Who then chose to let him hit the Over market this offĀ seasonĀ that the common denominator is that heās a problem in the locker rooms and for theĀ organizations that he plays for. However when you do the research you find out that the only organization he actually had a problem with was Jacksonville because they werenāt paying him and he wasnāt the only player that had problems with Jacksonville. For example Jalen Ramsey had problems with Jacksonville and was traded to the Rams and is now a model citizen on their team. And none of us have problems with Jalen Ramsey The Vikings traded for him because they thought they were getting ready to make a Super Bowl run but then injuries in training camp in early in the season destroyed the tub and they realize they didnāt have the money to re-sign him anyway so they traded him to try to get the draft picks that they traded for him back. then with Baltimore he was never really a scheme fit because they ran a 34 which asks their edge players to how about in the run game Ā and occasionally cover which isnāt really his game(heās a pureĀ pass rusher) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Yeah, i figured that was pretty much it.Ā Eveybody wanted out of Jax so you can't really count that against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Yeah, i figured that was pretty much it.Ā Eveybody wanted out of Jax so you can't really count that against him. Because thatās the knock on him is that why would a team trade for him and then trade him right after(Vikings) and then another team trade for him and have the money to pay him but choose not to(ravens) The question ofĀ why does everyone keep trading him is what leaves the door open for speculation about his character.Ā Ā But what he gives us is exactly what we need which is a bonafideĀ pass rush specialist.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jimkelly02 said: ššthank you! Ā Iāve been saying this for a while. While I agree he has not been playing single high in the system he has been in - is that not partly circumstantial i.e., the reason he isnāt a scheme fit is that he hasnāt been playing inĀ a single high, not that he canāt? No doubt that as a result of not having seen him play our system, there is no evidence or ātapeā if you want to call it that of him successfully playing single high then it is a projection or a risk. But if you think he has the physical skill set and the mental ability learn to play in a less familiar scheme (plus the character to offer leadership and culture to an area of the team full of young and inexperienced players) - might it be worth the risk if you feel he could offer elite playĀ at the position?Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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