pwny Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, DontTazeMeBro said: Just to be clear here. You’re saying you’ve debunked the rabbit holes you assume I’m going down and not actual things I’ve posted? Because other than mRNA not being past phase 3 trials, which I removed, I’ve been very careful about not posting untrue information. And if I’m not posting debunked information then I obviously don’t believe it. So I don’t really see the problem. We can go back to maybe a week ago where you asked all those questions about the 2015 paper on leaky vaccines, about ADE and some other stuff. Asking questions is good, and I will give props for not just immediately believing everything, but I know those two issues are primarily being spread on anti-vax TikTok, and I think it's a fair bet that that's where it came from into your sphere, either directly to you from TikTok or someone else giving you the information that they got from TikTok. And generally the point is that if that kind of stuff is being spread unabated, the sourcing on information there isn't exactly high. It's one thing to hear about it and then come here like you did to better understand it. It's another when the platform has allowed the amplification of information around that type of stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Pretty sure I have said this before, but you know medical triage is already a thing, right? That’s a very different issue and yes I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, NateDawg said: That’s a very different issue and yes I am aware. How is it different? Its a global pandemic. We are in an extended emergency. Medical triage absolutely applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonStark said: That’s correct, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a bad thing or rushed. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. Since the first SARs outbreak in 2002 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 @DeadpulseIf we are literally talking about triage when it comes to survivability as it relates to an emergency room parallel, etc., fine. But when we are dealing with a case based solely on a vaccine checkbox without legitimate treatments my point stands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Deadpulse said: How is it different? Its a global pandemic. We are in an extended emergency. Medical triage absolutely applies. See what I just posted. If they are able to treat someone, they should. If you are dealing with a legitimate triage situation then yes, save who you can. If it’s about a checkbox and playing favorites than you have a very slippery slope. Edited August 18, 2021 by NateDawg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTazeMeBro Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, pwny said: We can go back to maybe a week ago where you asked all those questions about the 2015 paper on leaky vaccines, about ADE and some other stuff. Asking questions is good, and I will give props for not just immediately believing everything, but I know those two issues are primarily being spread on anti-vax TikTok, and I think it's a fair bet that that's where it came from into your sphere, either directly to you from TikTok or someone else giving you the information that they got from TikTok. ACTUALLY. I think I first heard about ADE on Joe Rogan. If it wasn’t JRE it was another podcast I shouldn’t name here. But I’m pretty sure it was Rogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, JonStark said: That’s correct, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a bad thing or rushed. mRNA vaccines have been in development for years. And we've been using mRNA to stimulate the immune system for more than a decade. Gene knockouts were, what, early 2000s? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, NateDawg said: See what I just posted. If they are able to train someone come out to them. If you are dealing with a legitimate triage situation then yes, save who you can. If it’s about a checkbox and playing favorites than you have a very slippery slope. Triage by definition is a slippery slope. Most people have differing opinions on it. That doesn't mean it isn't usually necessary to maximize survivability for the most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, DontTazeMeBro said: ACTUALLY. I think I first heard about ADE on Joe Rogan. If it wasn’t JRE it was another podcast I shouldn’t name here. But I’m pretty sure it was Rogan. ah, well that's okay then, it must be legit 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, DontTazeMeBro said: ACTUALLY. I think I first heard about ADE on Joe Rogan. If it wasn’t JRE it was another podcast I shouldn’t name here. But I’m pretty sure it was Rogan. Rogan is a cherry picker. Don't trust what that dude says. He literally cites articles that disproves what he is saying in the same article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Since the first SARs outbreak in 2002 Incorrect. We've been working on COVID vaccines since then. We've been working on mRNA vaccines since the 1980's. Here's one of the first successes with mRNA research in mice, way back in March, 1990. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Since the first SARs outbreak in 2002 Since the 1990s at my alma mater actually! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, DontTazeMeBro said: ACTUALLY. I think I first heard about ADE on Joe Rogan. If it wasn’t JRE it was another podcast I shouldn’t name here. But I’m pretty sure it was Rogan. Rogan got it from TikTok lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, pwny said: Incorrect. We've been working on COVID vaccines since then. We've been working on mRNA vaccines since the 1980's Here's one of the first successes with mRNA research in mice, way back in March, 1990. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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