Deadpulse Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Im done with this thread I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Im done with this thread I think. This is probably the safest move, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwAg Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 It’s almost amusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: I simply provided another example to show you that your logic is just like the anti-vax crowd. yeah, just as easy to lose 50 lbs as to get a little shot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: yeah, just as easy to lose 50 lbs as to get a little shot Good lord, some of y'all have such a hard time understanding the most simple things. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, ET80 said: Question for those playing the "fat people are the problem" card: - Can you tell me what your A1C is? - Can you tell me what your HDL/LDL counts are? - Can you tell me what you Triglyceride count is? If not, you probably need to look into that. Being overweight is something everyone needs to work on, but being not obese doesn't immediately eliminate you from potential high risk factors such as diabetes, heart disease, etc. (Granted, I'm sure we're dealing with a group of doctors who all graduated from John Hopkins in this thread... so I'm sure this was factored into any sort of response). TLO had his bloodwork done in February 2020 and my numbers were pristine tbh. And I still got a vaccine because I’m not a ******* idiot (which is bigger issue than BMI iyam). nobody is more pro normal BMI levels than the MoL, but the “just lose weight” take is absurd. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Quote .....................results suggest that patients with the Delta variant had more than two times the risk of hospital admission compared with patients with the Alpha variant," according to the U.K. study. "Emergency care attendance combined with hospital admission was also higher for patients with the Delta variant, showing increased use of emergency care services as well as inpatient hospitalization. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid19-delta-variant-hospitalization-risk-unvaccinated-study/?fbclid=IwAR2zLc9c_CnSBqblrlzXMgEWZWVw85tt2CU9LEbgyHjj6AEpD2S9MiAkdGg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 11 hours ago, TVScout said: More info: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm?s_cid=mm7035e2_w I knew there was a reason I always sat in the back of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TVScout said: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid19-delta-variant-hospitalization-risk-unvaccinated-study/?fbclid=IwAR2zLc9c_CnSBqblrlzXMgEWZWVw85tt2CU9LEbgyHjj6AEpD2S9MiAkdGg Wait the very last paragraph makes no sense. It should be much more than 70% of an eligible population. Quote Meanwhile, almost 60% of those eligible in Los Angeles County have been vaccinated so far — still short of the 70% experts say is needed for herd immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, TLO said: TLO had his bloodwork done in February 2020 and my numbers were pristine tbh. And I still got a vaccine because I’m not a ******* idiot (which is bigger issue than BMI iyam). nobody is more pro normal BMI levels than the MoL, but the “just lose weight” take is absurd. No one is saying “just lose weight” and “don’t get a vaccine”. Pretty sure no one is saying don’t take the vaccine, or magically lose tons of weight. People are super exaggerating what was said in here and being downright drama queens (probably mostly overweight). All that was mostly said was if most of the country was in-shape, hospitalizations would be much much lower. Most adults who are under 50 in the hospital are usually overweight which wrecks your immune system. What was being said was simply nothing more than food for thought, and that if some people want better natural immunity next time while there are no vaccines, you could, you know… take care of your body and have some respect for your body. I am also a huge advocate for happiness as well. Whatever makes people happy, they should do that. If alcohol, bad food, and no exercise makes someone beyond happy in life and they don’t care about weight, what matters most is they are living a happy life. Edited August 29, 2021 by BayRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: No one is saying “just lose weight” and “don’t get a vaccine”. Pretty sure no one is saying don’t take the vaccine, or magically lose tons of weight. People are super exaggerating what was said in here and being downright drama queens (probably mostly overweight). All that was mostly said was if most of the country was in-shape, hospitalizations would be much much lower. Most adults who are under 50 in the hospital are usually overweight which wrecks your immune system. What was being said was simply nothing more than food for thought, and that if some people want better natural immunity next time while there are no vaccines, you could, you know… take care of your body and have some respect for your body. I am also a huge advocate for happiness as well. Whatever makes people happy, they should do that. If alcohol, bad food, and no exercise makes someone beyond happy in life and they don’t care about weight, what matters most is they are living a happy life. I don’t disagree with your general premise. It’s just an irrelevant stance to take at this juncture. If my aunt had a *******, she’d be my uncle. Edit: didn’t realize that’d be censored tbh Edited August 29, 2021 by TLO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TLO said: I don’t disagree with your general premise. It’s just an irrelevant stance to take at this juncture. If my aunt had a *******, she’d be my uncle. Edit: didn’t realize that’d be censored tbh No one should ever disagree with getting yourself in better shape and eating better lol. It's not going to stop this virus either. This **** isn't going away though so why not getting yourself in better shape, get yourself vaccinated, and put yourself in the best situation possible for when you're inevitably exposed to it? These nitwits showing the exception to the rule doesn't change the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) My grandma smoked like a chimney and did absolutely nothing physically her entire life, lived til she was 82. I have several aunts and an uncle that are raging alcoholics, smoke a pack a day, and do nothing for their health. They are all in their mid-60s to 70s and show no signs of vacating this earth, even if I want them to (seriously, my family sucks). Not even cancer has been able to take these ****ers down. Sometimes...just sometimes...living a long life is embedded in your genes. Outside of getting murdered, committing suicide and being involved in accidents, I haven't had a single family member that has died before the age of 80. So you ****ers are stuck with me for a looooooooooooooong time. Oh, and it doesn't get better as we age, folks. We are the Kardashians of alcoholics. We are never going away. Edited August 29, 2021 by beekay414 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 10 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Vaccinated people are going to the hospital too. They're also spreading it to others. You're trying to use the exception as the rule, just like the anti-vax crowd. Y'all are more alike than you think. There's literally zero denying that a healthy lifestyle lessens the severity of covid and a myriad of other potential health issues. List all the exceptions you want to but it's not going to change a thing. I just want to be thin enough the ICU Dr wont have to think about whether he could get an air way in. Icelands data had 43% of people as infected but not symptomatic. I think being healthy iis helpful, but it seems like there is a huge amount of just pure chaos as to who gets infected, who gets symptoms and who gets really sick. I saw some data the other day that shows that vaccinated people have a 25-50 lower mortality rate. Iceland's data had .03 mortality rate, the vaccine gives you a hell of a good shot at beating delta. .03 is pretty high too that is 3 people in 1000. I know more than that many people I dont want any of them to die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 7 hours ago, BayRaider said: No one is saying “just lose weight” and “don’t get a vaccine”. Pretty sure no one is saying don’t take the vaccine, or magically lose tons of weight. People are super exaggerating what was said in here and being downright drama queens (probably mostly overweight). 13 hours ago, ET80 said: - Can you tell me what your A1C is? - Can you tell me what your HDL/LDL counts are? - Can you tell me what you Triglyceride count is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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