BayRaider Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Assuming you're vaccinated, why aren't you comfortable traveling? Yeah, if you’re vaccinated, shouldn’t worry too much. I’m traveling to Maui end of the month. We will still mask and sanitize for extra protection against breakthrough cases but being fully vaccinated, you should be ok and not to worried when traveling. Can’t fear the virus forever basically, never going away, hope some have accepted that notion. I’ll be fully vaxxed 4 days before my trip and my girlfriend like 1 day before (two weeks after second dose). Cutting it close, but the way I see it is our antibodies will basically be higher than anyone else vaccinated since they do wane over time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, diehardlionfan said: I wish you well. I wish you well too buddy. I hope you can enjoy your retirement to the fullest eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Just now, BayRaider said: I wish you well too buddy. I hope you can enjoy your retirement to the fullest eventually! I’m very fortunate during this time. Being retired has allowed us to be very careful. We’ve been able to maintain contact with our grandchildren. My heart goes out to all of you that have had to maneuver this pandemic. I always thought I had lived through an awful time when I renewed my mortgage at 22% and inflation was rampant. That pales compared to what you have all gone through. I’ve watched what my children have gone through and they have my respect. One daughter delivered a baby in May. That was a process for them. Thanks for the good wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Someone brought up Joe Rogan a few hundred pages back so I thought this was relevant……I laughed initially but given how many followers he has, this could be a bad thing. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033485152/joe-rogan-covid-ivermectin Quote Joe Rogan, the mega-popular podcast host who has suggested that young, fit people don't need to get the COVID-19 vaccine, has announced he tested positive for the virus, but is feeling fine thanks to a cocktail of unproven medical treatments. Quote That included taking ivermectin, a deworming veterinary drug that is formulated for use in cows and horses. While a version of the drug is sometimes prescribed to people for head lice or skin conditions, the formula for animal use is much more concentrated. Edited September 2, 2021 by Xenos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Xenos said: Someone brought up Joe Rogan a few hundred pages back so I thought this was relevant……I laughed initially but given how many followers he has, this could be a bad thing. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033485152/joe-rogan-covid-ivermectin It's disappointing when celebs are so thoughtless and use their platform to promote antics that will ultimately harm/kill others who view them as a trustworthy source but don't have the same resources available to them - both externally and internally. Some people really are incapable of thinking beyond themselves unfortunately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Xenos said: Is vaccination becoming an issue also in Canada? Currently 12 and older 82.72 with one dose and 74.85% fully vaccinated nationally. I think those numbers will jump because vaccine mandates and passports are being introduced in a number of provinces. Our school board today announced anyone entering their schools eligible to be vaccinated, will be or entry will be denied. Our province announced a passport today. It will be required for casinos, theatres, restaurants and bars. In addition, federally regulated industries have a requirement to provide a safe work environment and employees have the legal right to refuse unsafe work. So federally regulated companies all have vaccine mandates. We certainly have those who remain anti mask and won’t vaccinate but will take veterinary drugs. As they continue to become further segregated by social requirements I expect (maybe it’s just hope) many will capitulate. I just saw this article after posting. It’s relevant so here it is. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-vaccination-rate-1.6161726 Edited September 2, 2021 by diehardlionfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Tbh I think the media’s insistence on portraying Ivermectin as a horse drug is a little disingenuous, and this is coming from someone who gets a real kick out of these inbred hicks taking the horse paste and ****ting themselves. And by no means am I advocating it for covid, but it’s a pretty great drug for humans too tbh 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TLO said: Tbh I think the media’s insistence on portraying Ivermectin as a horse drug is a little disingenuous, and this is coming from someone who gets a real kick out of these inbred hicks taking the horse paste and ****ting themselves. And by no means am I advocating it for covid, but it’s a pretty great drug for humans too tbh The problem is that stupid people are taking the animal version. Additionally, hydroxychloroquine is a good drug also. Just not for Covid. A high enough dosage can lead to death due to the strain it puts on the heart. Edited September 2, 2021 by Xenos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, Xenos said: The problem is that stupid people are taking the animal version. Additionally, hydroxychloroquine is a good drug also. Just not for Covid. A high enough dosage can lead to death due to the strain it puts on the heart. I’d argue that’s not a problem and anybody ingesting the horse medicine form deserves what they get tbh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The issue I have with people like Rogan is they look for every possible “cure” for this disease, regardless as to whether there’s any verifiable data as to efficacy, instead of looking at the data and realizing that a mask and a vaccine is exponentially more effective at preventing notable illness and the further spread in the first place. They continue these mental gymnastics and amateur science experiments, anything really, to avoid admitting they were either wrong or have no clue what they’re talking about. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, TLO said: Tbh I think the media’s insistence on portraying Ivermectin as a horse drug is a little disingenuous, and this is coming from someone who gets a real kick out of these inbred hicks taking the horse paste and ****ting themselves. And by no means am I advocating it for covid, but it’s a pretty great drug for humans too tbh Yes the news and fact checkers have definitely been disingenuous about it. They just say ivermectin is bad and is for animals. When in fact there is a human version and it’s a great drug. When it comes to media and “fact checkers” you really do need to do your own research, because they constantly word things in a disingenous way to support a certain narrative. Edited September 2, 2021 by BayRaider 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Yes the news and fact checkers have definitely been disingenuous about it. They just say ivermectin is bad and is for animals. When in fact there is a human version and it’s a great drug. When it comes to media and “fact checkers” you really do need to do your own research, because they constantly word things in a disingenous way to support a certain narrative. Eh, in the context that’s being discussed they’re not really wrong. The form these people are using IS intended for animals and it is a bad option in regards to self treatment of covid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, incognito_man said: It's disappointing when celebs are so thoughtless and use their platform to promote antics that will ultimately harm/kill others who view them as a trustworthy source but don't have the same resources available to them - both externally and internally. Some people really are incapable of thinking beyond themselves unfortunately. The sad parts about Rogans account of his experience are that 1. Unless you are on his or Trump's level, you probably can't afford monoclonal antibody treatment 2. The effectiveness of that treatment is going to mask the un-effectiveness of the rest of the "kitchen sink" he threw at it. People are going to see he took Ivermectin (which I'm still reserving judgement on until the bigger trials are completed) and think that they will be fine if they just take that. "Oh, I don't have to take preventative measures against Covid because if I get it, I can take a bunch of random (unapproved) drugs and be just fine" is such a horrible way of thinking during this pandemic and I would have hoped we would've moved past that by now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, JonStark said: The sad parts about Rogans account of his experience are that 1. Unless you are on his or Trump's level, you probably can't afford monoclonal antibody treatment 2. The effectiveness of that treatment is going to mask the un-effectiveness of the rest of the "kitchen sink" he threw at it. People are going to see he took Ivermectin (which I'm still reserving judgement on until the bigger trials are completed) and think that they will be fine if they just take that. "Oh, I don't have to take preventative measures against Covid because if I get it, I can take a bunch of random (unapproved) drugs and be just fine" is such a horrible way of thinking during this pandemic and I would have hoped we would've moved past that by now. There’s also a big difference between someone like Rogan who likely had the ivermectin prescribed by a physician (albeit one with a questionable treatment plan), dosed appropriately, etc and who will continue to monitor him and Cletus drinking sheep drench. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, TLO said: Tbh I think the media’s insistence on portraying Ivermectin as a horse drug is a little disingenuous, and this is coming from someone who gets a real kick out of these inbred hicks taking the horse paste and ****ting themselves. And by no means am I advocating it for covid, but it’s a pretty great drug for humans too tbh I guess I agree. It'd be more accurate to say they're using an anti-parasitic as an anti-viral. Drugs aren't for horses or people, they're for indications. Though I would hope patients who use ivermectin on label would understand they aren't the butt of the joke. That said, are we really going to begrudge the media for taking a pot shot at these idiots? I don't know about you all, but i could use a laugh and it's funny. Edited September 2, 2021 by ramssuperbowl99 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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