Xenos Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: Cam Newton cut. Hopefully this gets some airtime since he's a non-vaxxer. Would be nice to see him unsigned for awhile - at least until he smartens up. Is Mac Jones even vaccinated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Xenos said: Is Mac Jones even vaccinated? With a body like that? Why bother. He's probably immune based upon his sheer physique. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: @MWil23 so we’re closing the schools for a week and then instituting a 3 week mask mandate because so many of these inbred ******* illiterate hicks would rather chug ivermectin and **** their guts out or down malaria treatment until their heart stops or whatever the next brilliant solution these goober *** mouth breathers can come up with next as opposed to wearing a mask and getting a vaccine. Who could have possibly predicted this!?!? Maybe these schmucks can just stick to cleaning cow turds off their boots and let people who finished the 5th grade worry about healthcare… With any luck, they’ll all just die from medical poisoning before they can infect anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 39 minutes ago, Xenos said: Speaking of which Rams, did you see this study yet? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 No, and what's odd about this is that we'd expect the opposite given what @pwny posted. There's noise in here somewhere. Just gotta wait to find out where it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: No, and what's odd about this is that we'd expect the opposite given what @pwny posted. There's noise in here somewhere. Just gotta wait to find out where it is. Will be interesting to see what comes out in the peer review, and with larger reviews for the lack of antibody response. Is it at all possible for one method to be more likely to create antibodies and the other method being able to, when antibodies are actually created, to be more long lasting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, pwny said: Will be interesting to see what comes out in the peer review, and with larger reviews for the lack of antibody response. Is it at all possible for one method to be more likely to create antibodies and the other method being able to, when antibodies are actually created, to be more long lasting? Yep. This paragraph in the study you posted is relevant here: Quote Initial serosurveys identified antibodies in nearly 100% of persons with RT-PCR–confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection (5). However, more recent studies have shown that seroconversion rates are surprisingly variable (6–10). For example, a multicenter study from Israel reported that 5% of participants remained seronegative despite a positive test result on a nasal swab specimen (6). In contrast, a seroprevalence study from New York found that 20% of persons with a positive RT-PCR test result did not seroconvert (8). Another study from Germany reported that 85% of confirmed infected COVID-19 contacts failed to develop antibodies (9). To examine the reasons for these differences, we investigated the relationship between seroconversion and demographic, clinical, and laboratory data in a convenience sample of convalescent persons recruited at the University of Alabama at Birmingham (Birmingham, Alabama, USA) in 2020. We'll need to go through all of these to figure out why we aren't seeing consistency. False positives are build into ELISAs structurally, so it's not going to be perfect, but a range from 0-85% doesn't help us at all. Just now, pwny said: Is it at all possible for one method to be more likely to create antibodies and the other method being able to, when antibodies are actually created, to be more long lasting? Is it possible? Maybe. I have no reason to anticipate it. The only thing we're changing is the exposure to the thing that generates the antibodies, once we have the blueprint, it's all the same machinery mass producing everything. (The half-life of antibodies can vary slightly depending on their size, but they are all mostly the same size. But maybe if the antibodies clump together following one method, but not following the other that could become relevant? I'm skeptical.) My take is that before we'd want to really investigate whether something physiologically is going on, we'd want to make sure the data we've got are air tight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Effective tomorrow, mandatory masks K-12, but be understanding for the next 3 days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Effective tomorrow, mandatory masks K-12, but be understanding for the next 3 days. Huh, if only someone would have thought of this a couple weeks ago… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Good grief. This is comical. While I agree whole heartedly (I don’t think the border should be open) the border is only open because of pressure from the U.S. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/canada-travel-advisory.html https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-in-the-u-s-how-do-canada-s-provinces-rank-against-american-states-1.5051033 While I can’t drive across the border we’ve been able to fly in all along. Not trying to be political just trying to show another example of mixed messaging and inconsistency. Edited August 31, 2021 by diehardlionfan Addition of link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On a side note, an interesting look inside Pfizer and variant hunters. https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/30/inside-pfizer-labs-variant-hunters-race-to-stay-ahead-of-pandemic-2/ Quote The scientist leading all this work, Phil Dormitzer, was among the first to open the email bearing results of tests on how well Pfizer’s shot worked against Delta. For a heart-stopping moment, he thought the vaccine was indeed less protective against this wildfire of a variant. Then he looked again. “I realized that no, the one that was spreading was not the one with reduced neutralization,” he said. His team had tested two virus strains that emerged in India around the same time, and only one showed a drop in potency. Delta, which was fast becoming dominant, was efficiently wiped out by the vaccine. An exhale reverberated around Pfizer’s team that June day. Kena Swanson, senior director of viral vaccines, mimed wiping her brow with relief. “So far everything has looked actually quite good,” she said. Delta still has ways to cause more breakthrough infections in vaccinated people: It spreads more efficiently, has a shorter incubation period, and produces a higher viral load in those infected. But the test results showed the vaccine itself was working well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 rot in hell 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingseanjohn Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 4 hours ago, N4L said: So this leads me to ask, are hospitalized vaccinated people tested for vaccination or do they just take the patients word? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) What if any penalties are there for this type of fraud? That didn’t take long, https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jasmine-clifford-anti-vaxx-momma-fake-vaccine-card-instagram-1219217/ Edited September 1, 2021 by diehardlionfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, diehardlionfan said: What if any penalties are there for this type of fraud? That didn’t take long, https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jasmine-clifford-anti-vaxx-momma-fake-vaccine-card-instagram-1219217/ I hope she receives the maximum statutory penalty allowed on every.single.count whatever that is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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