NeptunePenguins Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, NoFlyZone said: I mean, are you trolling? I’m borderline thinking that you are. Hurts looked abysmal on Monday. Look at the list Edited September 30, 2021 by NeptunePenguins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: Look at the list As if that was the be it be all for evaluating QB play… no one in their rational mind thinks Jalen Hurts is worthy of being ranked as a top 10 QB. There is way more to QB play than looking at some arbitrary charting of risk related turnovers and “big throws”. If some analysis is leading you to believe Brissett > Mahomes you need to reanalyze. Edited September 30, 2021 by NoFlyZone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 19 hours ago, DoleINGout said: To Darren Waller, Hunter Renfrow, Bryan Edwards, and Henry Ruggs who are all more capable downfield receivers than what the Patriots have at this point. Mac is doing this in his first few games as a rookie with Jonnu Smith, Hunter Henry, Kendrick Bourne, and Nelson Agholor in their first season in a new offense. Mac has had his RB's just as often benched, traded, or now injured as Carr has been without Jacobs. Trent Brown has missed every game for the Pats and two of the three defense they have faced have been among the best in the league. I see comparable QB's but one is doing it as a rookie with less cohesion around him and support thus far. Carr lit it up with Agholor in his first season with no off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NeptunePenguins said: Look at the list What kinda metric is this for measuring QBs? This literally negates 80% of what a QB does, which are non-splash plays. Any who - here is NFL.coms. No clue if its any good, havent really followed it. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-4-2021-season-rankings Edited September 30, 2021 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: What kinda metric is this for measuring QBs? This literally negates 80% of what a QB does, which are non-splash plays. Any who - here is NFL.coms. No clue if its any good, havent really followed it. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-4-2021-season-rankings The QB Index used to be written by a guy called Chris Wesseling who was an excellent writer and who unfortunately died earlier this year. Haven’t seen Rosenthal’s version of it until this link, but it does seem a bit… knee jerk? It’s early in the season I suppose, but some of the rankings jumps since last week seem like overreaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 23 hours ago, NeptunePenguins said: Look at the list This is kind of fun to look at, and I think it can point you in a general direction, but the amount of stock I put into subjective PFF stats and grades is pretty non existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, Forge said: This is kind of fun to look at, and I think it can point you in a general direction, but I actually hate Baker Mayfield I knew it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: I knew it I think he's a tool, I've never been shy about that. His commercials have been good though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Forge said: I think he's a tool, I've never been shy about that. His commercials have been good though do you hate Jimmy G? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Just now, SBLIII said: do you hate Jimmy G? I don't hate anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Forge said: I don't hate anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, Forge said: I think he's a tool, I've never been shy about that. He falls squarely in the "He's my tool" camp. I'm sure Pittsburgh fans felt the same about Hines Ward, Baltimore and Ray Lewis, Florida fans and Tim Tebow, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: He falls squarely in the "He's my tool" camp. I'm sure Pittsburgh fans felt the same about Hines Ward, Baltimore and Ray Lewis, Florida fans and Tim Tebow, etc. He hasn't done anything overly toolish for a while though. He's been a lot more entertaining than arrogantly toolish the last couple of years. It's annoying and makes him a bigger tool 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Forge said: He hasn't done anything overly toolish for a while though. He's been a lot more entertaining than arrogantly toolish the last couple of years. It's annoying and makes him a bigger tool 🤣 The interview where he trolled Cowherd last year by intentionally turning his hat backwards had me in stitches. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2021/01/11/baker-mayfield-trolls-colin-cowherd-backwards-hat/115279734/ Check out the first 2 minute clip and then this gem: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Don’t wanna hear none of that Baker over Carr crap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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