NYRaider Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Forge said: Does he have to do more than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: Wrong clip, tbh. He's never been a good down field passer. That call was always kind of weird. I would never assume that's a completion. Just not his thing at all. That's kind of like the Norwood kick. You have to post the things that he really mucked up. This one is pretty egregious: Or this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Forge said: Does he have to do more than that? He make a good superman/clark kent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 5:15 PM, Matts4313 said: His opinion on Carr is apparently based of 2 quarters based off 2 games in 2021 which is what the comparison is of and taking into account history of the quarterback play* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 5:21 PM, Matts4313 said: Every fans default is to bash the playcaller. Tell me, what is McDaniels doing schematically that is so bad? As a Pats fan I always thought my fellow Patties unfairly ride McDaniels. He’s one of the best OC’s in the league and BB clearly wants him around. That said, I think what SB is referring to is the conservative nature of calls when we need a lot of yards. It’s been ever-present even in peak Brady years where he’d predictably call a draw play on 3rd and long. At the weekend we faced a 3rd and 17, and a 3rd and 15 I believe. Both play calls were WR screens and they went nowhere. But again I reiterate I think he’s generally good as a play caller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lavar703 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 2:56 PM, Apparition said: At this point, I just divide guys into tiers. Their rankings within those tiers is purely academic. Tier 1: The guys who carry their teams to perennial contention Brady Mahomes Rodgers R. Wilson Tier 2: Guys who have the talent to be tier 1 but not the track record Jackson Allen Prescott Herbert Stafford Mayfield Murray Ryan So there's your top-12. Rounding out the remaining groups Tier 3: Guys whose performance is too dependent on circumstance to be considered in the top two tiers Carr Tannehill Roethlisberger Cousins Wentz Bridgewater Darnold Winston Goff Garoppolo Tier 4: Replacement-level guys, journeymen and assorted scrubs Taylor D. Jones Dalton Fitzpatrick/Heineke Tier ??: Not enough data Burrow Tagovailoa Hurts M. Jones Lawrence Z. Wilson Fields Lance Just curious how Heineke falls into the tier you placed him in as opposed to (?)? He’s started two games for us and has played extremely well in all four of his appearances. I just don’t understand how we don’t have enough data on a guy like Tua that has looked pretty much terrible and has started more games versus a guy like Heineke that has looked great but has less starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 14 hours ago, lavar703 said: Just curious how Heineke falls into the tier you placed him in as opposed to (?)? He’s started two games for us and has played extremely well in all four of his appearances. I just don’t understand how we don’t have enough data on a guy like Tua that has looked pretty much terrible and has started more games versus a guy like Heineke that has looked great but has less starts? I mean, he clearly fits the definition of "journeyman", being with his 6th organization in 7 seasons. He could move into another category if he continues playing well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Apparition said: I mean, he clearly fits the definition of "journeyman", being with his 6th organization in 7 seasons. He could move into another category if he continues playing well. Fair enough. I can agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 8:35 PM, DoleINGout said: People complain about this right now, but it was the same thing under Charlie Weis when Brady was young. It's less of a McDaniels thing than a Belichick not wanting to put too much on a young QB's shoulders thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, Apparition said: People complain about this right now, but it was the same thing under Charlie Weis when Brady was young. It's less of a McDaniels thing than a Belichick not wanting to put too much on a young QB's shoulders thing. Except it's been a glaring issue going back to when Brady was here in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 So when is Carr going to get some respect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 After first three weeks of 2021 szn: 1. Brady 2. Herbert 3. Mahomes 4. Rodgers 5. Wilson 6. Stafford 7. Prescott 8. Allen 9. Jackson 10. Murray 11. Carr 12. Garoppolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DoleINGout said: After first three weeks of 2021 szn: 1. Brady 2. Herbert 3. Mahomes 4. Rodgers 5. Wilson 6. Stafford 7. Prescott 8. Allen 9. Jackson 10. Murray 11. Carr 12. Garoppolo HM: 13. Cousins 14. Bridgewater 15. Hurts 16. Mayfield 17. M. Jones 18. Burrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I feel like Baker is in the awkward Joe Flacco category where people don’t know what to do with him. Could easily bottom out and become God awful. He could also have a stupid hot streak and win the super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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