mission27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:32 AM, DoleINGout said: After first four weeks of 2021 szn: 1. Brady 2. Herbert 3. Mahomes 4. Rodgers Herbert over Mahomes/Rodgers at this point is absurd tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 10:28 PM, lavar703 said: No, Mac Jones hasn’t played anywhere close to as well as Heinecke. This is silly. And I’m one of the ones rooting for Mac to do great. Don't really get your take here tbh There's not a lot of daylight between the two statistically and the bulk of Heinecke's production came against the 26th and 28th ranked defenses in the league Both of them have one bad start, against a really tough New Orleans defense, although Mac was better Heinecke has Terry Mclaurin and Mac doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, mission27 said: Don't really get your take here tbh There's not a lot of daylight between the two statistically and the bulk of Heinecke's production came against the 26th and 28th ranked defenses in the league Both of them have one bad start, against a really tough New Orleans defense, although Mac was better Heinecke has Terry Mclaurin and Mac doesn't This post was before the Saints game. Heinecke sucked badly in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, lavar703 said: This post was before the Saints game. Heinecke sucked badly in that game. That's fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 hours ago, mission27 said: Herbert over Mahomes/Rodgers at this point is absurd tbh not necessarily. I would rather trust Mahomes or Rodgers over an entire season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Despite how disappointing Colts have been Wentz has been one of the few bright spots. He’s currently 15th in passer rating and yards. Many had him close to last in rankings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said: Despite how disappointing Colts have been Wentz has been one of the few bright spots. He’s currently 15th in passer rating and yards. Many had him close to last in rankings. I would rank him about 20th right now with potential to rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHARMON9 Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) Updated after week 5. 1. Brady 2. Herbert 3. Allen 4. Jackson 5. Mahomes 6. Murray 7. Rodgers 8. Prescott 9. Wilson 10. Stafford 11. Cousins 12. Carr/Ryan/Wentz/Burrow Edited October 12, 2021 by GHARMON9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 composite out of EPA/QBR/PFF through 5 weeks 1. T. Brady (4/5/1) 2. J. Herbert (5/4/3) 3. P. Mahomes (2/1/14) 4. K. Murray (6/3/9) 5. M. Stafford (1/2/16) 6. L. Jackson (8/11/6) 7. R. Wilson (16/9/2) 8. J. Allen (9/6/13) 9. T. Bridgewater (3/12/14) 10. D. Jones (13/10/7) 11. K. Cousins (15/17/4) 12. J. Burrow (14/14/8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 elite 1. Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Justin Herbert 4. Patrick Mahomes 5. Russell Wilson 6. Josh Allen definitely better than average 7. Matt Stafford 8. Dak Prescott 9. Kyler Murray 10. Lamar Jackson 11. Matt Ryan 12. Ryan Tannehill 13. Joe Burrow 14. Kurt Cousins 15. Baker Mayfield 16. Derek Carr average 17. Jared Goff 18. Jalen Hurts 19. Carson Wentz 20. Jameis Winston 21. Teddy Bridgewater 22. Ben Roethlisberger 23. Mac Jones 24. Jimmy Garoppolo 25. Sam Darnold below average 26. Trevor Lawrence 27. Daniel Jones 28. Taylor Heincke 29. Jacoby Brissett 30. Zach Wilson 31. Justin Fields 32. Davis Mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayLew52 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BrownLeader said: elite 1. Tom Brady 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Justin Herbert 4. Patrick Mahomes 5. Russell Wilson 6. Josh Allen definitely better than average 7. Matt Stafford 8. Dak Prescott 9. Kyler Murray 10. Lamar Jackson 11. Matt Ryan 12. Ryan Tannehill 13. Joe Burrow 14. Kurt Cousins 15. Baker Mayfield 16. Derek Carr average 17. Jared Goff 18. Jalen Hurts 19. Carson Wentz 20. Jameis Winston 21. Teddy Bridgewater 22. Ben Roethlisberger 23. Mac Jones 24. Jimmy Garoppolo 25. Sam Darnold below average 26. Trevor Lawrence 27. Daniel Jones 28. Taylor Heincke 29. Jacoby Brissett 30. Zach Wilson 31. Justin Fields 32. Davis Mills Worst list I have ever seen. Dak, Lamar and Kyler are elite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, RayLew52 said: Worst list I have ever seen. Dak, Lamar and Kyler are elite. I think we have 9-10 elite QBs right now. And those will also most likely be the best teams at the end of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I question the ability to judge QB play on anyone who doesnt consider Dak elite at this point. Its a simple barometer on if you know WTH you are talking about. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I question the ability to judge QB play on anyone who doesnt consider Dak elite at this point. Its a simple barometer on if you know WTH you are talking about. For me it's also about how long. Dak has to maintain for at least a season first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BrownLeader said: For me it's also about how long. Dak has to maintain for at least a season first. Outside of a 10 game stretch at then end of 2017/start of 2018 Dak has consistently been a top 5-7 statistical QB for 6 years. How much more do you need to see? For the last 3 years he has led the cumulative #1 offense in the NFL. Not Brady. Not Mahomes. Not Jackson. Its been Dak. And he has done this with his WRs being top 3 in the NFL for drops!! He's done it with gaudy bulk stats (2020), gaudy efficiency stats (2016, 2021). He is near the tops in 4th quarter comebacks/GWDs since he entered the league. He's had years leading the league in deep ball passing (2018), multiple years being top 10 in completion %, etc. He has had his OC changed, his entire WR corps changed, none of it matters. Statistically if you compare him and Brady the last 25-50 games, Dak wins in almost every individual category. There is literally nothing to prove whatsoever. Which makes it even more funny when people like Herbert are put over him. Edited October 14, 2021 by Matts4313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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