dante9876 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: The sky is not falling yet. We have Denver, NYG, and Philly in our next 3. But WE need to play better. Carr needs to finally man up and call out bad execution. And get on the same page as his receivers. He leads them when they sit and they sit when he leads them. And he needs to acknowledge his own unwillingness to use his legs when it counts and rectify it. And we need to bench andre james in favor of Nick Martin. And we need to bench Simpson for Eleumenor when Eleumenor gets healthy. We shouldn't be favored in 2 of those 3 games. Eagle dline is very good. Hargrove gonna kill our interior oline. Broncos going to attack Parker relentlessly. I don't know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, dante9876 said: We shouldn't be favored in 2 of those 3 games. Eagle dline is very good. Hargrove gonna kill our interior oline. Broncos going to attack Parker relentlessly. I don't know Me neither. I'm just trying to level. The honeymoon period is over for this team. It's put up or shut up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, dante9876 said: We shouldn't be favored in 2 of those 3 games. Eagle dline is very good. Hargrove gonna kill our interior oline. Broncos going to attack Parker relentlessly. I don't know If I had to guess, Broncos favored by 2 Eagles/Raiders is a pick em game Raiders/Giants is Raiders favored by 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, BayRaider said: If I had to guess, Broncos favored by 2 Eagles/Raiders is a pick em game Raiders/Giants is Raiders favored by 2 Denver opened 2.5 up to 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, SimonGruber said: Denver opened 2.5 up to 3 Sounds about right to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 13 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Edwards has no idea what to do I wager. Still Carr needs to hit him and not lead him. You have to throw for the completion, not to "execute" the play. This is how Carr has always played, under Gruden at least. He runs the play and throws the ball to where it is supposed to go and where the receiver is supposed to be. You can blame Carr for not coming off script, but it's really the WR not running the right route. It's difficult to play WR in Gruden's offense and it's typically why he likes old vets over young guys. It's why good route runners like Waller and Renfrow feast. Others stop getting the ball because they can't be trusted to be where they're supposed to be. We could simplify it I'm sure, but our offense seems too simplified as it is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, true2form said: This is how Carr has always played, under Gruden at least. He runs the play and throws the ball to where it is supposed to go and where the receiver is supposed to be. You can blame Carr for not coming off script, but it's really the WR not running the right route. It's difficult to play WR in Gruden's offense and it's typically why he likes old vets over young guys. It's why good route runners like Waller and Renfrow feast. Others stop getting the ball because they can't be trusted to be where they're supposed to be. We could simplify it I'm sure, but our offense seems too simplified as it is right now. You could say that for every season Gruden has been here. I know his ego wouldn't let him do it, but maybe Cable should be fired and let the OC call plays. Gruden has shown he isn't the offensive mastermind people think he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 The game was over before that throw anyway. It ended when we couldn't get 1 yard on two tries. It ended when gruden decides to run to the worst part of the offense on critical downs. It ended when all we had to do was get out in front and make fields a passer and offense couldn't do nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I was one of the two who said the Bears would win because the Bears front seven was going to destroy the Raider's OL, which they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: I was one of the two who said the Bears would win because the Bears front seven was going to destroy the Raider's OL, which they did. The Raiders did not lose yesterday because of the line. They lost because they didn’t come to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: The Raiders did not lose yesterday because of the line. They lost because they didn’t come to play. The OL is the most important unit on offense. Not showing up is the reason the Raiders lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: The OL is the most important unit on offense. Not showing up is the reason the Raiders lost. OL has nothing to do with not catching the ball on multiple occasions that would've been a big plays Sure OL had a roll but we can't confuse it with last week. I understand that's why we lost against the chargers. But this week there were a handful of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 9:40 AM, Jeremy408 said: It’s a forgone conclusion that they’re gonna win. I’m looking to see how they win. if the win by 2 or more scores it will have meant nothing beside the fact that the can bounce back if the game is within one score. The Raiders are in trouble this year if the Raiders lose this game then you can’t trust the Raiders this year bottom line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, true2form said: This is how Carr has always played, under Gruden at least. He runs the play and throws the ball to where it is supposed to go and where the receiver is supposed to be. You can blame Carr for not coming off script, but it's really the WR not running the right route. It's difficult to play WR in Gruden's offense and it's typically why he likes old vets over young guys. It's why good route runners like Waller and Renfrow feast. Others stop getting the ball because they can't be trusted to be where they're supposed to be. We could simplify it I'm sure, but our offense seems too simplified as it is right now. Carr could have done the easy thing and ran for the first down and reset with a fresh set of downs. But he's not about that life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Carr could have done the easy thing and ran for the first down and reset with a fresh set of downs. But he's not about that life he did that a few times in the game which will always be the thing that pisses me off about Carr Josh Allen runs 4.7 and runs Patrick Mahomes runs 4.8 and runs Derek Carr runs 4.6 and doesn't run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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