big_palooka Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: he did that a few times in the game which will always be the thing that pisses me off about Carr Josh Allen runs 4.7 and runs Patrick Mahomes runs 4.8 and runs Derek Carr runs 4.6 and doesn't run Because he is scared. It's that simple. He is tough. He will get back up and he will play hurt but he looks completely erratic when things brake down. He looses composure quickly and doesn't want to take hits hence doesn't look to run. It is what it is. Some QBs thrive in those spots to make something out of nothing. Some want to live to fight another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Because he is scared. It's that simple. He is tough. He will get back up and he will play hurt but he looks completely erratic when things brake down. He looses composure quickly and doesn't want to take hits hence doesn't look to run. It is what it is. Some QBs thrive in those spots to make something out of nothing. Some want to live to fight another day. But I was the bad guy for bringing up he gets shook at times. People wanted to pretend that the bothering a qb by applying pressure and moving him off his spot, is the same as what bosa said. It really isn't. Like you said he gets erratic, dont really want to take off. Sure it's gotten better his 8 years in the league but you still clearly see traces of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Carr could have done the easy thing and ran for the first down and reset with a fresh set of downs. But he's not about that life If Edwards runs upfield it’s a TD, I’d rather have a TD than a first down, especially the way the Oline was playing. Receiver and QB not in sync. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dessie said: If Edwards runs upfield it’s a TD, I’d rather have a TD than a first down, especially the way the Oline was playing. Receiver and QB not in sync. The OL and Carr/the receivers aren't on the same page. It's so frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: The OL and Carr/the receivers aren't on the same page. It's so frustrating. Look at these bums.... Letherwood blocks James and Parker.... well he blocks no one LOL It's sad but also funny. Gruden needs to be fired. Edited October 11, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, dante9876 said: But I was the bad guy for bringing up he gets shook at times. People wanted to pretend that the bothering a qb by applying pressure and moving him off his spot, is the same as what bosa said. It really isn't. Like you said he gets erratic, dont really want to take off. Sure it's gotten better his 8 years in the league but you still clearly see traces of it. I've been saying the same thing since his injury in 2016. Bosa was 100% accurate. You watch that play, if he hangs in there he get a wide open waller. He folded to absorb the hit. Maybe you can argue he was trying to protect the ball, but he flat was not looking down field. And that is losing football. There is a lot I like about Carr. He's been a great transition QB, but to think he can take you deep into the playoffs, I just don't see it. Denver (Fangio) is the architect of the defense SD and Chicago run. Will be another chance to rebound, but he's going to see a lot of the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Dessie said: If Edwards runs upfield it’s a TD, I’d rather have a TD than a first down, especially the way the Oline was playing. Receiver and QB not in sync. I don't disagree. But certainly didn't like how Carr rushed that throw. It's 4th down, you have to move the chains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 With Gruden gone. If I'm Mayock I'm talking to Mark about trading for Mack before the deadline. Not because of 'need' but saying...WE F'ed up. Come home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, G said: With Gruden gone. If I'm Mayock I'm talking to Mark about trading for Mack before the deadline. Not because of 'need' but saying...WE F'ed up. Come home. One can hope. I do hope we trade for an OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, G said: With Gruden gone. If I'm Mayock I'm talking to Mark about trading for Mack before the deadline. Not because of 'need' but saying...WE F'ed up. Come home. First act of his as GM is trading away high draft picks to pacify Raider Nation.... you miss me with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 hours ago, dante9876 said: But I was the bad guy for bringing up he gets shook at times. People wanted to pretend that the bothering a qb by applying pressure and moving him off his spot, is the same as what bosa said. It really isn't. Like you said he gets erratic, dont really want to take off. Sure it's gotten better his 8 years in the league but you still clearly see traces of it. He looked shook vs Chicago too especially after a couple hits and Mack started talking in his ear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: He looked shook vs Chicago too especially after a couple hits and Mack started talking in his ear Every QB gets rattled when yo hit them. Just some sooner than later. Carr is in the sooner category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Look at these bums.... Letherwood blocks James and Parker.... well he blocks no one LOL It's sad but also funny. Gruden needs to be fired. This is why Cable needs to be fired. The only one who maintained his block was Waller, a TE, not an OL, not to mention he was blocking Mack. What a joke. I won't respect any HC that doesn't fire Cable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: Every QB gets rattled when yo hit them. Just some sooner than later. Carr is in the sooner category. True like fields we tried to beat him down but that just added fuel to his fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 20 hours ago, big_palooka said: Carr could have done the easy thing and ran for the first down and reset with a fresh set of downs. But he's not about that life Hindsight. If he'd ran and came up short or fumbled you'd be saying why didn't he throw it. No QB is perfect and they won't always choose the best thing to do. None of it matters though. The team played like crap and deserved to lose. Carr could've have done a lot better. Receivers couldn't catch a cold. Oline is in shambles. Running game is non-existent. Defense while improved still can't tackle and get off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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