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Just now, Chiefer said:

He was billed as the most NFL ready of all the QB prospects besides Lawrence though? Thats why he was getting top 3 considerations i thought.

He had a live arm too, remember that vividly. He was not a noodle arm like a lot of previous Bama guys

This was my impression too (although admittedly I didn't watch a lot of him in college)

He was the high floor, lowish ceiling guy - and that actually has a lot of value in the right offense

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Just now, Chiefer said:

He was billed as the most NFL ready of all the QB prospects besides Lawrence though? Thats why he was getting top 3 considerations i thought.

He had a live arm too, remember that vividly. He was not a noodle arm like a lot of previous Bama guys

I had concerns given what he was working with in Alabama. Lots of clean pockets, lots wide open guys, *lots* of rpos. It was really hard for me to gauge how that was going to translate. I think it was with @KingOfNewYork that I had a conversation about the difficulties in how to determine how a guy's mental aptitude would translate and develop at the next level. I just think its very hard to establish how that goes. People who are billed as smart guys / mentally pro ready fail all of the time as well. 

His arm is pretty meh though. Throws a pretty ball, but his arm talent isn't great or anything. 

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1 minute ago, Trentwannabe said:

That Jags game is sticking too much in your memory because this is just not true.

Allen isn't in the conversation IMO, but he's within striking distance of the conversation

His bulk yardage isn't there, nor his Comp% or YPA... but he's 17/5 going into this game, and solid ground yardage, which keeps him in the conversation

If he springs 2-3 silly games, doesn't have another major bombing, and the Bills win 12-13, then he's very much a competitor

But he hasn't been spectacular enough to make up for only being 5-3, and a "signature loss", and several very humbling games this season

Just my 2 cents.. He has work to do to get back into the mix

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2 minutes ago, Tk3 said:

This was my impression too (although admittedly I didn't watch a lot of him in college)

He was the high floor, lowish ceiling guy - and that actually has a lot of value in the right offense

Especially the Patriots offense, or even the Broncos, Browns, etc.

i honestly thought he had a decently high ceiling, his arm strength is Peyton like. Its not amazing but it gets the job done at a high level either way.

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