Bobby816 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Abe56 said: If they stay at four which i think they will, the pick will 99.99% be Hutchinson, Thibodeaux or Walker I'd rather a 23yr old Johnson than Walker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Jets will still need DT there. Thomas and Shepherd are not exactly home run signings as Big Q and Rankins will hit FA after this season. Whoever DT they take along 1st round DE will elevate DL level. Q has 2 more years left on his deal. Jets picked up his 5th year option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, NYJets4716 said: Q has 2 more years left on his deal. Jets picked up his 5th year option. Me duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC33 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Bobby816 said: I think rating anything back that far isn't accurate. Let's take just the last 5 years and see those success rates. It's very high at WR. And guys who have been failures either a lot of us would've guessed they would've been (John Ross for example) or a guy that had something freakish happen (Ruggs). Of course there's been failures like N'Keal Harry (last pick in Round 1 FYI) and others. But where the guy is getting drafted has to play a part. There's a huge difference between a guy getting chosen at 10 than a guy going 32. Loved Harry, lol. As for the rest, generally agree but you’d be surprised. Even looking at the last 5yrs it’s at best say ~50% — that’s assuming guys like Aiyuk, Jeudy, Smith all work out. Remove 2/3 and it’s ~39%, around where it’s been dating back to 2000. Easy to forget guys like Michael Floyd, Kendall Wright, Watkins, Justin Blackmon — all would’ve been considered a ‘success’ after their second season. Ultimately I think you’re right, but probably not to the extent you think. We’re talking about breaking a 25+ year trend. Quality has gone up, but relative to quantity? Not sure. The college game has made it a lot easier for guys to look the part. This year is a great example of that, we’ll likely see 5 FRPs and no one has a consensus as to what ordered they’ll fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, NJC33 said: The college game has made it a lot easier for guys to look the part. This year is a great example of that, we’ll likely see 5 FRPs and no one has a consensus as to what ordered they’ll fall. Which is what prompted this discussion. Does JD value a WR at 10 this year? His actions in trying to trade for an established star may suggest he does not. Couple that with the data and it may be a dicey choice this year as there are no Chase's or Waddle's. Just a lot of decent WR that in some years (like last year) would probably fall to round 2. I wonder where Moore would have ranked in this WR draft class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe56 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Bobby816 said: I'd rather a 23yr old Johnson than Walker Johnson is just not in the mix that high, Walker right now is the betting favorite to go #2 overall to DET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimuraGod Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 As much as I want either KT or Hutch I don’t think it will happen. I think both will be gone by #4. So with that being said I can really get on board with drafting Neal/Ikeem at #4, Jermaine Johnson at #10 and then trade up in the first for whatever receiver falls (they do every year!) Ideally JJ would be a little younger but we just need talent and my god he’s an explosive edge rusher like we’ve been craving for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimuraGod Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Abe56 said: Johnson is just not in the mix that high, Walker right now is the betting favorite to go #2 overall to DET. Yeah Iv seen Walker being mocked #1 or #2 in most drafts recently. Still don’t think it will happen though. If it does that would mean the draft last year was QB, QB, QB and then this year DE, DE, DE. 🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 I'd be ecstatic if Walker went before us at 4, so he was for sure out as an option for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Icky is the pick if he’s there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Bobby816 said: I'd rather a 23yr old Johnson than Walker You mean the 23 year old Johnson who couldn't get playing time for the Bulldogs on that line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, ekill08x said: You mean the 23 year old Johnson who couldn't get playing time for the Bulldogs on that line... to be fair, you can use a similar analogy to Joe Burrow and ohio st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: to be fair, you can use a similar analogy to Joe Burrow and ohio st You can’t. There’s only one QB on the field, a DL should be able to find a role in a DL rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan4life51 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Dr.O said: Walkers just weird to me Athletically he has it all, has good bend, but I’m just not impressed with his tape, he has his moments but hasn’t really done it consistently enough for me to be comfortable taking him at 4. He's done most of his damage inside. I want someone who will beat a Tackle off the Edge. And like bobby has said countless teams. An absolutely stacked Georgia unit and he doesn't have the numbers or highlights to go along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, jetsfan4life51 said: He's done most of his damage inside. I want someone who will beat a Tackle off the Edge. And like bobby has said countless teams. An absolutely stacked Georgia unit and he doesn't have the numbers or highlights to go along with it. Facts. I’d be happy wit KT or JJ at 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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