sammymvpknight Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, ET80 said: Gotta be for Flores. The timing would make sense. They’d keep Watson I’d imagine…right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Let's level set here - the Texans are bad, sure. David Culley was part of the reason they were bad. TLDR. The team with David Mills as QB was bad? I'm shocked? The guy squeezed 4 wins out of one of the least talented teams in a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: 2/2 it seems. Now, McDaniels or Flores? Or maybe Steve Belicheck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Why would Flores pick the Texans over the other coaching options? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Comments like this really seem to be focused on record and not what led to this record. Here's a really deep dive into the David Culley era in Houston: https://theathletic.com/3067310/2022/01/12/fact-checking-arguments-for-and-against-the-texans-firing-david-culley?source=user-shared-article Some fun nuggets: - The Texans’ matched Las Vegas’ preseason expected win total, but when they weren’t competitive, they were really not competitive. They lost on average by 17.2 points. - The 2020 Texans had a minus-80 point differential through 16 games, while Culley’s Texans were minus-169 through 16 games. In 2020, the Texans were 2-9 in one-score games; this season’s team was 0-4. No Texans team played in fewer one-score games than this season’s Texans, despite this being the longest season in Texans history. - But in both of those victories (LAC, Tenn) as well as the Texans’ Week 1 win over the Jaguars, Houston finished plus-3 or better in turnover margin. In other words, turnover luck bounced the Texans’ way in a significant way, and that’s not a sustainable way to win or a smart way to evaluate the team’s overall performance. - He’s made elementary game-management errors and offered head-scratching explanations. Among them: He declined a penalty to punt a play early against the Browns out of frustration. He did not understand Caserio’s in-game advice on the headset to let the Patriots score late in a close loss. In that same Patriots game, he thought the clock stopped on New England’s final drive because of an incomplete pass, but it stopped because Culley called a timeout. Down 11 early in the fourth quarter against the Dolphins, in a game in which his team failed to score a touchdown in its three prior red zone trips, Culley opted for a field goal from the Miami 1-yard line. He said after losing to the Dolphins that his team would never win while turning the ball over four times, despite the Texans defense recording five takeaways that day. After seeing the Texans’ up-tempo passing game have success in a failed comeback against the Titans, Culley said he shouldn’t have relied so heavily on one of the least efficient running games of this century. It took him 16.5 games to come to that revelation. Let's level set here - the Texans are bad, sure. David Culley was part of the reason they were bad. While true... he still got the Texans to a better record than most expected. Most thought they would be the unanimous worst team in the league. They weren't and Mills looks like he has some real potential playing under his staff. Overall I think the way the season went for the Texans was about best case scenario with the personnel they were using and the coaches they hired. Culley definitely sucks though and never should have been hired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: 2/2 it seems. Now, McDaniels or Flores? Or maybe Steve Belicheck? Does Steve belichick still have a mullet?? If so 10 year deal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninerholic Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 The guy chewed way too much gum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, viking said: TLDR. The team with David Mills as QB was bad? I'm shocked? The guy squeezed 4 wins out of one of the least talented teams in a decade. Two of those four wins were against the LEAST talented team in the decade, so have at it I guess. You want to think David Culley is good, be my guest. Those who actually watched him (and have enough wherewithal to not TL;DR facts, which doesn't seem you speed) can see the truth. But hey, you do you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, AZ_Eaglesfan said: While true... he still got the Texans to a better record than most expected. Two of those wins were the Jacksonville Jaguars... Week 1, the beginning of the Urban Meyer era... Week 15, the beginning of the post-Urban Meyer era. Not gonna really read too much into those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I forgot about Steve Belichick. He has to be an option. So does Jerrod Mayo and quite possibly Joe Judge as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: Shocking. They’re going to hire Flores and trade Watson for Tua+. Culley was down dirty here, unsurprising knowing how the leadership of that franchise operates. They definitely are not trading for Tua lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 This tracks - Texans are very reactionary in nature, that's their MO. They don't think, they just do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, JiffyJag said: They definitely are not trading for Tua lol Hey you probably know better than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: This tracks - Texans are very reactionary in nature, that's their MO. They don't think, they just do. I mean tbf I imagine Caserio spent the entire last 2 days begging Flores (thru text) to come to Houston. They probably have some sort of back door deal worked out already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: The timing would make sense. They’d keep Watson I’d imagine…right? I can't really say one way or another - people speculate Watson wanted to go to Miami because of Flores, but I don't think there's any truth to that. I could see Cal and Co willing to come to the table and work it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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