HuskieBear Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Give up an OTA for something more like an actual training camp practice? Sign me up every time. just so long as it doesn't go any further. Seattle got docked a 2017 5th rounder for repeated CBA issues during OTAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 21 hours ago, dll2000 said: Well all I know is they have paid and signed or extended non-rookies named: ... And guess what? We still couldn't out bid them for their very modest FA center this offseason. That seem weird to you? As someone who was dug into this debate as a former Rams fan, its all about mortgaging the future, literally the GIF I posted of kicking the can down the road. And for them, now that they got the Super Bowl, it is all worth it (and they are doubling down again to try for one more before the inevitable cap-doom comes) But if you dont get that Trophy, like the Saints, it really really sucks. Just look at the dead cap numbers (if they were cut today) on all their contracts right now, it shows exactly what they are doing Donald - $73m Stafford - $63m Ramsey - $48m Kupp - $20m Floyd - $27m Robinson - $31m Noteboom - $16m Wagner - $10m Wagner's $10m would make it into the Bears Top 5. And even more shocking, (after moving on from Mack) our highest in Eddie Jackson ($24.5m) wouldnt even crack the Rams Top 5. And you might say "we can do that too" and while sure we could, it would be for a much lower level of player. These guys are willing to do this for the Rams right now, because they are one of the Super Bowl favorites. Those Super Bowl memories are going to have to keep Rams fans warm for a good chunk when they have zero cap space, Donald retires, Kupp moves on to a massive contract somewhere, and McVay goes elsewhere because he knows he cant win with zero cap or picks. The Rams are already committed $230-240m to next years Cap, which is unlikely to get even that high, before any NLTBE incentives hit the books for next year. They have like $220m+ committed to 2024 already. Thats more than we have this year. Now not all of that is guaranteed, so they will make moves, but a good chunk is, and they are going to have to deal with it at some point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Raiders signed Jesper Horstead. Hope he catches on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 6 hours ago, StLunatic88 said: As someone who was dug into this debate as a former Rams fan, its all about mortgaging the future, literally the GIF I posted of kicking the can down the road. And for them, now that they got the Super Bowl, it is all worth it (and they are doubling down again to try for one more before the inevitable cap-doom comes) But if you dont get that Trophy, like the Saints, it really really sucks. Just look at the dead cap numbers (if they were cut today) on all their contracts right now, it shows exactly what they are doing Donald - $73m Stafford - $63m Ramsey - $48m Kupp - $20m Floyd - $27m Robinson - $31m Noteboom - $16m Wagner - $10m Wagner's $10m would make it into the Bears Top 5. And even more shocking, (after moving on from Mack) our highest in Eddie Jackson ($24.5m) wouldnt even crack the Rams Top 5. And you might say "we can do that too" and while sure we could, it would be for a much lower level of player. These guys are willing to do this for the Rams right now, because they are one of the Super Bowl favorites. Those Super Bowl memories are going to have to keep Rams fans warm for a good chunk when they have zero cap space, Donald retires, Kupp moves on to a massive contract somewhere, and McVay goes elsewhere because he knows he cant win with zero cap or picks. The Rams are already committed $230-240m to next years Cap, which is unlikely to get even that high, before any NLTBE incentives hit the books for next year. They have like $220m+ committed to 2024 already. Thats more than we have this year. Now not all of that is guaranteed, so they will make moves, but a good chunk is, and they are going to have to deal with it at some point Point is what they are doing by CW shouldn't even be possible for any year You aren't supposed to be able to pay that many high end veterans at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 They are making a mockery of notion of a hard cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, StLunatic88 said: As someone who was dug into this debate as a former Rams fan, its all about mortgaging the future, literally the GIF I posted of kicking the can down the road. And for them, now that they got the Super Bowl, it is all worth it (and they are doubling down again to try for one more before the inevitable cap-doom comes) But if you dont get that Trophy, like the Saints, it really really sucks. Just look at the dead cap numbers (if they were cut today) on all their contracts right now, it shows exactly what they are doing Donald - $73m Stafford - $63m Ramsey - $48m Kupp - $20m Floyd - $27m Robinson - $31m Noteboom - $16m Wagner - $10m Wagner's $10m would make it into the Bears Top 5. And even more shocking, (after moving on from Mack) our highest in Eddie Jackson ($24.5m) wouldnt even crack the Rams Top 5. And you might say "we can do that too" and while sure we could, it would be for a much lower level of player. These guys are willing to do this for the Rams right now, because they are one of the Super Bowl favorites. Those Super Bowl memories are going to have to keep Rams fans warm for a good chunk when they have zero cap space, Donald retires, Kupp moves on to a massive contract somewhere, and McVay goes elsewhere because he knows he cant win with zero cap or picks. The Rams are already committed $230-240m to next years Cap, which is unlikely to get even that high, before any NLTBE incentives hit the books for next year. They have like $220m+ committed to 2024 already. Thats more than we have this year. Now not all of that is guaranteed, so they will make moves, but a good chunk is, and they are going to have to deal with it at some point Well this part will have to wait awhile Edited June 8, 2022 by beardown3231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 hours ago, dll2000 said: They are making a mockery of notion of a hard cap. C.R.E.A.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 15 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Well this part will have to wait awhile Yea, though he would wait to cash in, but at the same time, those numbers I threw out are even more out of whack now Still think Donald is on the cusp of retirement, and then that defense completely falls apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 13 hours ago, The_Romen said: C.R.E.A.M. I don't know what that means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 "Blu, of Earth" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RunningVaccs said: "Blu, of Earth" really helps drive home the crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: I don't know what that means. It means "Cash Rules Everything Around Me" C.R.E.A.M. It is a reference to a WU-Tang Clan song from 1994. Edited June 9, 2022 by Bigbear72 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 I got laid off this week. Sucky feeling. I didn’t do anything wrong. Opposite. Firm just made some really bad financial decisions that put them in an impossible bind. Good new is I already have job prospects. But I am thinking strongly of making a go of it on my own and starting my own firm. Which is also pretty scary. But I am a little tired of being worried I might be laid off with every recession. If you are so inclined pray for me and my family. Thanks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbear72 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, dll2000 said: I got laid off this week. Sucky feeling. I didn’t do anything wrong. Opposite. Firm just made some really bad financial decisions that put them in an impossible bind. Good new is I already have job prospects. But I am thinking strongly of making a go of it on my own and starting my own firm. Which is also pretty scary. But I am a little tired of being worried I might be laid off with every recession. If you are so inclined pray for me and my family. Thanks. That's always tough and I am sorry to hear that. That being said, it is of my belief that God makes things uncomfortable for you in order to force growth. People don't tend to move forward or progress when they are in a comfortable position. Of course I don't know you and the particular details of your situation so there is still a lot to consider but maybe starting your own firm is exactly what you should be doing. Or maybe there is a better opportunity elsewhere. Just my thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Bigbear72 said: That's always tough and I am sorry to hear that. That being said, it is of my belief that God makes things uncomfortable for you in order to force growth. People don't tend to move forward or progress when they are in a comfortable position. Of course I don't know you and the particular details of your situation so there is still a lot to consider but maybe starting your own firm is exactly what you should be doing. Or maybe there is a better opportunity elsewhere. Just my thoughts. You are right. 1 Peter 6-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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