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1 hour ago, DaWg_LB. said:

I'm say this and leave it Alone.....First, I trust in A. Berry, he is a young GO GET us a championship type of guy. We will get one, with him and Paully D. at the helm.

Still I have to be VERY against the Watson trade....period and Point Blank. 1, just the Drama and Publicity...not to mention a possible still suspension depending on the civil cases.....I like Deshaun Watson, but its not like the ask is REASONABLE, the price is Houston saying....we give you our Franchise QB, and you give us your FRANCHISE for the next 3 years.

The reason's I am against it.

1. I am not ready to give up on Baker Mayfield, I wont get into why, because that horse is dead. I just say go by strictly the stats and NFL Record he's broken with the only caveat is Consider he was Injured all of last year, and played with and Injury that would sit out 75% of the QB's in the NFL. Is Baker a Franchise QB yet, his consistency would say not yet, but his flashes and Playoff Road Win in Pittsburgh makes me want to see him Healthy and WITH some Actual NFL Targets (like Burrow, Murry, Prescott, and the like enjoy....)   AND then lets upset the Apple Cart if he cant get it done while HEALTHY....

2. The Draft pick Cost...our Font Office has started drafting WAY TOO WELL.....to Consider the insane cost of 3 1rst and possible 3 2nds...if we look at our last 3 1rst and 2nd's that's NOT Baker Mayfield (already included in the trade), then would you trade, Jedrick Wills, Greg Newsome III and Denzel Ward + Jerimiah Owusu-Karomoah, Grant Delpit and Greedy Williams + (Baker Mayfield, Kareem Hunt rumored compensation) for Deshaun Watson.....ME PERSONALLY, I wouldnt trade all that for Patrick Maholmes.....

3. The Cost of Bad Blood, whoever trades for Watson, and at the Cost of what it will take, be prepared for, Women's Rights, #MeToo, Black Lives Matter and the like to start picketing AND putting the team under the Microscope of EVERYTHING ANYONE do....Baker Mayfield "Oh he took Advantage of this poor girl in the Cheesecake Factory Parking Lot"......"Oh Kareem Hunt....proven woman beater...the Browns Foster a Culture JUST like the Washington Football Team".......now all of a sudden some God OLD emails, From GOD knows where, SENT by coaches no longer here get subpoenaed and its Anarchy, then the Halsem Case i brought back up......SAME OLD BROWNS,. 

We had a bad year last year.....Point of View: Excuses and Reasons are identical, classification as such depends on ones perspective (you can have that one too Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.... who took my phrase "Using Hope as Strategy, which I have been saying for YEARS)"...I digress).....but lets get our playoff winning, NFL Rookie Record Breaking QB, healthy...with targets as good as Burrow, Murry, Prescott, Jackson...let our young potential super stars continue to develop on defense, keep developing and let the best running game in the NFL get healthy....lets shore up special teams and DT........ and make tweek moves, not Turn Over the apple cart moves.....we are 4-0 vs our division foes who represented the AFC in the Superbowl game last year......will anyone RIGHT now sit her and say pound for pound, Top to Bottom the Cincinnati Bengals are a more talented football team than us right now??? IF you say yes, Trade away for Watson...we just work on two different Plains of Logic and I can accept that...because your saying Watson is Worth is Playoff winning, NFL Rookie Record Breaking QB, a Starting NFL LT, A former NFL Rushing Champion, an entire 2ndary featuring an All Pro #1 Shutdown CB and a Difference Making LB who Put Lamar Jackson out for the season lst year, WOW you love Watson.......BUT if you say NO (or more importantly HELL TO THE NAW), then how can you logically say we need to give up all those assets to get a QB to lead a team that will no longer be SB ready after the talent that would leave, the draft capital sacrificed and Cap Space OBLITERATED.....

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Humbly Submitted, By DaWg_L.b., This day of March 15th, in the Year of Lord Two Thousand and Twenty Two...

 

This, so very much all of this.

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6 minutes ago, pscottdai said:

This, so very much all of this.

To illuminate last year Mahomes was 7th or 8th ranked qb. Grossly overplayed for how well he performed so let's trade him plus hill plus Hardeman and 3 number 1s because Burrows is  Better

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2 minutes ago, mtmmike said:

To illuminate last year Mahomes was 7th or 8th ranked qb. Grossly overplayed for how well he performed so let's trade him plus hill plus Hardeman and 3 number 1s because Burrows is  Better

Mike I'm a fan of yours, but bruh...

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Once Watson's suspension is over and lets say he doesn't demand to be traded again is there any fear that after no criminal charges for his previous 22 assaults that he gets cocky and steps up his sexual assault game and is in prison in 2 years?

He claims he did nothing wrong so he isn't recovering from his sickness. I'd be a little surprised it he didn't continue his actions.

Wouldn't you think that would lower his value?

Either way, I wouldn't give up this year's first for him. Don't want the risk and I'm not going to defend him. I will still be a Browns fan but I'm not watching games that he starts in 2022. I'll watch and root for the Keenum led team but I'm not sitting in front of a TV and watching Watson get rewarded for messing up women's lives. 

I will probably be back in 2023 if he is still there or not, time will lessen it like it always does. 

Watson isn't a top 5 QB though. His arm is lame, his legs are good and he plays a good backyard football game. I don't think it would mesh well with Stephanski. 

 

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9 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

For sure, it was an ugly incident.  

If it’s on the internet they’re likely parroting **** their dad or grandfather said cuz their arse didn’t watch him play either.  Christ who’s the oldest guy here?  @bruceb @Bucketheadsdad @cattleman78?  Did any of these guys even watch him play live?  

Probably me and, yes, I watched him play. He was incredible.

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16 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said:

Once Watson's suspension is over and lets say he doesn't demand to be traded again is there any fear that after no criminal charges for his previous 22 assaults that he gets cocky and steps up his sexual assault game and is in prison in 2 years?

He claims he did nothing wrong so he isn't recovering from his sickness. I'd be a little surprised it he didn't continue his actions.

Wouldn't you think that would lower his value?

Either way, I wouldn't give up this year's first for him. Don't want the risk and I'm not going to defend him. I will still be a Browns fan but I'm not watching games that he starts in 2022. I'll watch and root for the Keenum led team but I'm not sitting in front of a TV and watching Watson get rewarded for messing up women's lives. 

I will probably be back in 2023 if he is still there or not, time will lessen it like it always does. 

Watson isn't a top 5 QB though. His arm is lame, his legs are good and he plays a good backyard football game. I don't think it would mesh well with Stephanski. 

 

To answer your first question?  I would guess no!

Drug addicts seem to get sober, and often go back to being high again!

Unless he is a sex addict, i would think that he wouldn't want to go through this again, and not be emboldened by light consequences...just my opinion though.

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