Forge Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, brownie man said: Why is everyone assuming Seattle is gonna bomb it with these picks 2000 19 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama [14] 22 Chris McIntosh OT Wisconsin 2001 9 Koren Robinson WR North Carolina State [15] 17 Steve Hutchinson^ G Michigan [16] 2002 28 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington [17] 2003 11 Marcus Trufant CB Washington State 2004 23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas 2005 26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi [18] 2006 31 Kelly Jennings CB Miami 2007 No pick [19] 2008 28 Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California [20] 2009 4 Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 2010 6 Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 14 Earl Thomas S Texas [21] 2011 25 James Carpenter OG Alabama 2012 15 Bruce Irvin DE West Virginia [22] 2013 No pick [23] 2014 [24] 2015 2016 31 Germain Ifedi G/T Texas A&M 2017 No pick 2018 27 Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 2019 29 L. J. Collier DE TCU 2020 27 Jordyn Brooks LB Texas Tech Not a great history (this regime, specifically). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Bruh, thats all they got? Maybe we value guys more than teams do Edited March 8, 2022 by MSURacerDT55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, brownie man said: Yeah I do believe Murray is franchise. Yeah, he’s done nothing to substantiate that. I know how you feel about Baker Mayfield, so we’re gonna play a little game here (numbers are per game): QB1: 235.4 ypg/1.5 TDpg/0.9 INTpg QB2: 249.6 ypg/1.5 TDpg/0.7 INTpg Which QB is Baker? Which QB is Kyler? Given the similarities between these numbers… does it matter which is which? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, brownie man said: Why is everyone assuming Seattle is gonna bomb it with these picks two first and two seconds lets not forget Russell was a third rounder not saying they will or not saying they won’t mess this up, but you can make things happen with that type of ammo. It’s up to the FO to use it correctly. Schinder went crazy with that 2012 draft. Maybe lightning could strike a decade later. This is absolutely a deep draft outside of QB, and even then one of the guys might pan out. It’s not as bad as the 2013 draft. but we won’t know whose won this trade for 3 years most likely. Last time John Schneider needed a QB he traded a 2nd rounder for Charlie Whitehurst and handed Matt Flynn a guaranteed $10 million. I appreciate your optimism though. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Forge said: 2000 19 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama [14] 22 Chris McIntosh OT Wisconsin 2001 9 Koren Robinson WR North Carolina State [15] 17 Steve Hutchinson^ G Michigan [16] 2002 28 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington [17] 2003 11 Marcus Trufant CB Washington State 2004 23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas 2005 26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi [18] 2006 31 Kelly Jennings CB Miami 2007 No pick [19] 2008 28 Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California [20] 2009 4 Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 2010 6 Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 14 Earl Thomas S Texas [21] 2011 25 James Carpenter OG Alabama 2012 15 Bruce Irvin DE West Virginia [22] 2013 No pick [23] 2014 [24] 2015 2016 31 Germain Ifedi G/T Texas A&M 2017 No pick 2018 27 Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 2019 29 L. J. Collier DE TCU 2020 27 Jordyn Brooks LB Texas Tech Not a great history (this regime, specifically). Yeah, this specific group of people are pretty bad with picks in the top 32… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, ET80 said: Yeah, this specific group of people are pretty bad with picks in the top 32… They did do a solid job on second round picks for the first half of the decade and then completely fell apart in the second half. It's like DK and then yikes since about 2016. Their last 5 years have just been fairly rough when it comes to drafting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I personally think the Seahawks couldve gotten more. The last thing the Seahawks need is just picks. They are probably the worst drafting team in the NFL. I have to think they take all those picks and go trade for Watson. If they keep those picks and straight up draft players they better hit gold or else they got fleeced the most of any team all-time. I love the trade for the Broncos. We are seeing the picks mean less and less now. Its about proven talent. The Rams have shown everyone the way. As the shirt that Les worn to the parade with this face on it said, "f!@$%^ those picks" lol. The Broncos are a legit one QB away from imo being not just the favs in the AFC West but possibly the favs in the AFC and could be the NFL. They have the defense and they could be getting Von back which would be bad for me as a Rams fan but great for him since he didnt want to leave in the first place and great for the team and fanbase. They have every piece on offense outside the QB and they have a young offensive minded coach that ARod thinks highly of. So now you add the QB in that homefield advantage in Denver and they have potential to be danger-RUSS lol. So picks dont matter to them. They are essentially the Bucs or two seasons ago and the Rams of last season. Go win a Superbowl like right now and figure the rest out later. So I love this for the Broncos. Right now they are my fav to come out of the AFC to go to the Superbowl. I truly believe in Russ and I think he will thrive with the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: I’m not usually the guy to bring this type of thing up seriously in a discussion, but I think it actually has merit here… How much of that has to do with seeing Aaron Donald, Chandler Jones, Nick Bosa, and the rest of those secondary pass rushers (Leonard Floyd, Arik Armstead), twice a year? Plus DeForest Buckner, Danielle Hunter, TJ Watt, Cam Jordan, and Khalil Mack in 2021? I get his tendency probably goes back much, much further than just this year. But I don’t think the AFCW, even with Crosby/big bear, has nearly that pedigree. It really took one not-all-that-much-down year for people for forget about Chris Jones? Dude's only Top 5 in QB pressures of the past 5 seasons. Frank Clark didn't look last season like Seattle Frank Clark but there's as much evidence to show that the downturn of last season was as much to do with battling injury as any. Ngakoue is still the guy lining up opposite Crosby - and posted 10 sacks. Also, why bring up out-of-division schedule and slate of pass-rushers-faced for one team if you're not willing to show it for the other side as well? Seems a bit disingenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 This deal is bad for Seattle because they should have gotten more, but tbh at some point in 20 pages we should probably note it's conceivable that they're selling high and that Russ is 33 and no one knows how he's going to age as a QB given his size/playstyle/OLs. Maybe the concussion water keeps him around until he's 40, but I doubt it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awsi Dooger Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 This seemingly makes it more difficult for the Chiefs to go unbeaten. During the Mahomes era that's all I care about, as a '72 Dolphins season ticket holder. Kansas City figured to be in a regular season funk one season after losing the Super Bowl. But that goes away this year. Also I don't mind the Seahawks declining, after their prominent blogger was such a paranoid laughingstock by lying about the content of my posts after he refused to publish them. Let him stay up all night to watch defeats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, brownie man said: Why is everyone assuming Seattle is gonna bomb it with these picks two first and two seconds lets not forget Russell was a third rounder not saying they will or not saying they won’t mess this up, but you can make things happen with that type of ammo. It’s up to the FO to use it correctly. Schinder went crazy with that 2012 draft. Maybe lightning could strike a decade later. This is absolutely a deep draft outside of QB, and even then one of the guys might pan out. It’s not as bad as the 2013 draft. but we won’t know whose won this trade for 3 years most likely. Well... have you seen their recent draft picks? I can see why people would have very little faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Forge said: 2000 19 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama [14] 22 Chris McIntosh OT Wisconsin 2001 9 Koren Robinson WR North Carolina State [15] 17 Steve Hutchinson^ G Michigan [16] 2002 28 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington [17] 2003 11 Marcus Trufant CB Washington State 2004 23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas 2005 26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi [18] 2006 31 Kelly Jennings CB Miami 2007 No pick [19] 2008 28 Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California [20] 2009 4 Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 2010 6 Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 14 Earl Thomas S Texas [21] 2011 25 James Carpenter OG Alabama 2012 15 Bruce Irvin DE West Virginia [22] 2013 No pick [23] 2014 [24] 2015 2016 31 Germain Ifedi G/T Texas A&M 2017 No pick 2018 27 Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 2019 29 L. J. Collier DE TCU 2020 27 Jordyn Brooks LB Texas Tech Not a great history (this regime, specifically). They got second rounders too We can’t act like he didn’t draft the best line backer and arguably best corner of the decade I’m just saying an extra first and second two years in a row is enough ammo to find the guy or at least find some great talent. Now if you want to fire Schneider that’s a different conversation, and I could see the argument for that. but if he’s going to stay I think two first two seconds and some players that’ll you’ll either keep or could turn into comp picks a enough value to bring in some quality talent. but yes I could definitely see the argument Schiender should’ve been fired by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forge Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, brownie man said: They got second rounders too Those haven't been better for the last 5 years outside of DK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Forge said: 2000 19 Shaun Alexander RB Alabama [14] 22 Chris McIntosh OT Wisconsin 2001 9 Koren Robinson WR North Carolina State [15] 17 Steve Hutchinson^ G Michigan [16] 2002 28 Jerramy Stevens TE Washington [17] 2003 11 Marcus Trufant CB Washington State 2004 23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas 2005 26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi [18] 2006 31 Kelly Jennings CB Miami 2007 No pick [19] 2008 28 Lawrence Jackson DE Southern California [20] 2009 4 Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 2010 6 Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 14 Earl Thomas S Texas [21] 2011 25 James Carpenter OG Alabama 2012 15 Bruce Irvin DE West Virginia [22] 2013 No pick [23] 2014 [24] 2015 2016 31 Germain Ifedi G/T Texas A&M 2017 No pick 2018 27 Rashaad Penny RB San Diego State 2019 29 L. J. Collier DE TCU 2020 27 Jordyn Brooks LB Texas Tech Not a great history (this regime, specifically). Eh; Okung-Thomas were awesome picks (First of the regime) Carpenter was a slight reach, but outplayed other OL's drafted around that spot (Carmi, Sherrod). Key cog in Seattle offense in 2012-2014. Bruce Irvin a decent pick at 15 (although over Ingram and Chandler is ..tough). Collier is the only Bust. Penny was a reach, Brooks was an ok pick at 27. He's been just as good as the other 1st round LB's (Simmons, Murray Queen). Overall.... ehhhhh That being said, I dont have a ton of confidence they dont mess this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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