AkronsWitness Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Why would they pay Baker more than Brady? The Browns are going to end up eating some of his salary to get him moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe56 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Probably gonna have to cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: The Browns are going to end up eating some of his salary to get him moved. Didn't Tampa just draft Driskel and why would they trade for him when he's a free agent next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 18 hours ago, jrry32 said: My mind is honestly blown that Carolina, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh all decided to go other directions. I feel like Baker is worth more of a shot than Trubisky, Mariota, and whatever Carolina is planning. I'd take him over Jalen Hurts and Daniel Jones too. All of the pundits that share this kind of take and are surprised by what's happening with him just weren't clear eyed in their evaluation of him all along. It's not entirely about what he's put on film, but it's at least 60% the reason. 30% is the money/contract. and 10% are the intangibles. 1 hour ago, massraider said: Do people really think that a viable NFL strategy is to decide to suck for an entire season in March? All of these teams are made up of coaches and GMs who want to keep their jobs. Getting a Mayfield, or whoever, and getting your team to 9-8 or so might mean an owner keeps everyone around, and no one gets fired. FO's certainly look more than a year ahead though. Most teams won't go full 2017' Sashi Brown but I definitely think ATL, Caro, Seattle, Pitt, and NYG are all squinting at the potential trove of franchise level QB prospects available in 2023. None of those teams are legit viewing their guys right now as long term solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BrownLeader said: All of the pundits that share this kind of take and are surprised by what's happening with him just weren't clear eyed in their evaluation of him all along. It's not entirely about what he's put on film, but it's at least 60% the reason. 30% is the money/contract. and 10% are the intangibles. I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Forge said: Is it Baker Mayfield? Close, a farmers insurance policy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolmesPriest Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 If he wants to covert to WR I heard there some room open over at the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: If the Seahawks don't trade for Baker, what happens? He sits Browns have to pay him if we cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy at least has the benefit of potentially starting for his current team next season. When was the last time we saw a QB get traded right before the season to take over as the starter elsewhere? Sam Bradford is the only one who comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, candyman93 said: He sits Browns have to pay him if we cut him Yeah, not sure we cut him. Worst case, we pay him to "stay at home" and hold onto him until a team gets desperate enough to trade for him. I don't think we'll have him play while Watson is suspended. He'd likely be too much of a distraction and his relationship with the team would just cause trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, DawgX said: Yeah, not sure we cut him. Worst case, we pay him to "stay at home" and hold onto him until a team gets desperate enough to trade for him. I don't think we'll have him play while Watson is suspended. He'd likely be too much of a distraction and his relationship with the team would just cause trouble. If you cut him, even if someone signs him for the vet minimum you at least get that back as an offset. Not sure how much that matters to the Browns brass. Honestly, I think you can easily value 20M at like a 5th round pick...if it takes a 5th round pick for Seattle to take him on, Id' do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, BrownLeader said: FO's certainly look more than a year ahead though. Most teams won't go full 2017' Sashi Brown but I definitely think ATL, Caro, Seattle, Pitt, and NYG are all squinting at the potential trove of franchise level QB prospects available in 2023. None of those teams are legit viewing their guys right now as long term solutions It is certainly an interesting process to consider for those 5 teams...ATL, Caro, Seattle, Pitt, and NYG I view ATL, SEA, NYG, CAR as unlikely to be playoff contenders. So getting a higher draft slot in 2023 very well could be the better long-term plan. Do GMs think in those terms of " tanking"? Then is Baker at $18M better value than.... Mariotta at $4M Jones at $8M Lock at $1.5M Trubisky at $3.6M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Forge said: If you cut him, even if someone signs him for the vet minimum you at least get that back as an offset. Not sure how much that matters to the Browns brass. Honestly, I think you can easily value 20M at like a 5th round pick...if it takes a 5th round pick for Seattle to take him on, Id' do it. Is there offset language in the 5th year option being picked up? I don't think there is. I think if he were cut he could double dip. Are you saying the Browns give up Baker and a 5th? That would be dumb. Just do what the Texans did with Watson and just let the season roll by. Then you'd at least get a comp pick. Yeah not having his salary rollover to next year would create issues but that's a gamble I'd take that someone comes calling at some point to try to keep their season alive after an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Thomas5737 said: Is there offset language in the 5th year option being picked up? I don't think there is. I think if he were cut he could double dip. Are you saying the Browns give up Baker and a 5th? That would be dumb. Just do what the Texans did with Watson and just let the season roll by. Then you'd at least get a comp pick. Yeah not having his salary rollover to next year would create issues but that's a gamble I'd take that someone comes calling at some point to try to keep their season alive after an injury. I'd rather have 20 million in space than a fifth round pick. Pretty comfortably 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Forge said: I'd rather have 20 million in space than a fifth round pick. Pretty comfortably I think that is a fair stance. That then leads to a question if Baker is enough of an upgrade on what a team might have currently at QB to get value out of trading for Baker and his $20M 2022 contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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