Emerica Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Not sure what the gif is about? Even those who don't think Tua is a starting-quality QB don't deny that he's a very accurate passer. Yeah, there a lot of things you can dislike about Tua but his accuracy is definitely not one of those things. Just goes to show some folks’ ignorance about the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Not sure what the gif is about? Even those who don't think Tua is a starting-quality QB don't deny that he's a very accurate passer. Probably more about the "in space" part. Tyreek is aware that Tua has averaged well under 7 yards per attempt this far? Things are just as likely to be ridiculously crowded as they are to find open space. Granted, that could very well change. Just saying, he's accurate, but he also isn't exactly stretching the field. As far as Tua goes, he's near the bottom of the league in that regard (ahead of Josh Allen, ironically, but that's an exception). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I really wonder whether the chiefs even tried to get Waddle in return for this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerica Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Probably more about the "in space" part. Tyreek is aware that Tua has averaged well under 7 yards per attempt this far? Things are just as likely to be ridiculously crowded as they are to find open space. Granted, that could very well change. Just saying, he's accurate, but he also isn't exactly stretching the field. As far as Tua goes, he's near the bottom of the league in that regard (ahead of Josh Allen, ironically, but that's an exception). Hmmmm… I guess Mahomes is an exception too. I guess that hot weather in Miami is going to prevent them for separating and finding open space. All this shows is you get your playmakers the ball in space and they will make plays happen. You don’t always need to push it down the field. Also an upgraded OL will help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinsforlife Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: I really wonder whether the chiefs even tried to get Waddle in return for this trade. I'd imagine that's a non-starter from Miami. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: I really wonder whether the chiefs even tried to get Waddle in return for this trade. Why the hell would Miami consider that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Probably more about the "in space" part. Tyreek is aware that Tua has averaged well under 7 yards per attempt this far? Things are just as likely to be ridiculously crowded as they are to find open space. Granted, that could very well change. Just saying, he's accurate, but he also isn't exactly stretching the field. As far as Tua goes, he's near the bottom of the league in that regard (ahead of Josh Allen, ironically, but that's an exception). The scheme last season was very much focused on short passing plays as there was virtually no pass protection. Regardless, "in space" just means getting the ball to the receiver with no defenders around. It's not really a long or short pass thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Why the hell would Miami consider that? Cos Hill is levels above Waddle. I’m talking about this from Chiefs angle mainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Why the hell would Miami consider that? Cos Hill is levels above Waddle. I’m talking about this from Chiefs angle mainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: Cos Hill is levels above Waddle. I’m talking about this from Chiefs angle mainly. Sure, last season. Waddle just finished one of the best rookie WR campaigns ever though, and is just entering his prime at 23, while Hill is 28 and will be on the decline soon enough. Would make no sense to give Waddle up for Hill. That said, I half expected Devante Parker to be included in this trade. There's been some buzz about us wanting to move him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: The scheme last season was very much focused on short passing plays as there was virtually no pass protection. Regardless, "in space" just means getting the ball to the receiver with no defenders around. It's not really a long or short pass thing. Upgraded OL should help. Until that's shown to be true though, getting to "in space", long or short, is a tough ask of even great QBs when blocking is bad. That said, I'm merely opining what the previous reaction may have been about as it's not a matter of accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Cos Hill is levels above Waddle. I’m talking about this from Chiefs angle mainly. Yeah but he’s an ascending WR with huge talent. I’d probably take waddle over every receiver this year tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Tyreek Hill is going from the QB that had the 5th-shortest average pass distance in the NFL last season (Patrick Mahomes, 7.02) to the QB with the 4th-shortest average pass distance (Tua Tagovailoa, 6.92) Anyone else find this ironic? For as much crap as Tua gets for throwing short passes due in large part to the complete ineptitude of his OLINE's inability to block mind you (not arm strength). Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs were right there with him on average depth of throws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Piquel Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Tyreek Hill is going from the QB that had the 5th-shortest average pass distance in the NFL last season (Patrick Mahomes, 7.02) to the QB with the 4th-shortest average pass distance (Tua Tagovailoa, 6.92) Anyone else find this ironic? For as much crap as Tua gets for throwing short passes due in large part to the complete ineptitude of his OLINE's inability to block mind you (not arm strength). Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs were right there with him on average depth of throws? Yeah you'll get that when teams have 8 people playing deep coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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