Iamcanadian Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 3:56 PM, LETSGOBROWNIES said: As far as the USC prospects, those guys played for different coaches in different eras really. Darnold has everything you want in a qb prospect with the exception of maybe a little more experience. You are right on there. NFL scouts and HC's know college HC's past records at producing pros at every position. The college itself has zero to do with it. It is the reason Rodgers fell on draft day, because his college HC had produced a # of high picked QB's and every one of them had flopped before Rodgers. That's all part of the scouting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I've seen this kind of wow play from Darnold in every game of his, multiple times. Eyes downfield, innate movement, sneaky athleticism and a great arm. It's a bit weird because there are many plays where he stays in the eye of the storm within the pocket, calm and moving in a subtle way to let the play develop and make something happen. But then on other plays sometimes he will get happy feet and force it. What makes me want him on the Browns though is seeing the former plays. Where he displays many of the traits you see in the top pro QBs. Rosen is very different, and likeable in his own right. He won't move from his spot but he is adept at reading coverages, has great form and is accurate. The lack of athleticism doesn't downgrade him for me. The greatest QB ever is unathletic but the best at moving in the pocket. And if you're accurate and smart enough, that's all you need. The reason I favour Darnold is because I think he fits the profile of a Browns QB in the AFC North better, and Rosen's backbreaking picks give me some pause. Why is he reading coverage well and then on a crucial play, throwing up those really simple INTs? Both are good, and if Darnold doesn't come out, I want Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Was finally able to watch the full game and I’ve come to the conclusion that we have to take Darnold over Rosen. Darndolds hair is an nfl caliber set of hair. And that schnoz on Rosen? Man don’t know if I want to see that thing every presser. I really want to like Jamabo, UCLA RB, but he’s honestly just soso. And did anybody hear the fan in the 3rd quarter during that injury timeout yell “hey Sam Cleveland’s really going to love you!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Sneak peak...as of now for me Rosen is slightly ahead of Darnold. I’m a huge fan of accuracy and contrary to some I believe it’s a gift that can’t be exactly improved upon. Improved I suppose but not to a noticeable difference. Rosen is pretty accurate. He fairly consistently puts it on the receivers hands for yac. He makes me nervous as far as his maturity. So a long way to evaluate him. Btw we need to get off the Darnold doesn’t want to play for the Browns thing. The only documented quote from him is he has no idea where that came from. So what do you believe? His words or “sauces”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: Sneak peak...as of now for me Rosen is slightly ahead of Darnold. I’m a huge fan of accuracy and contrary to some I believe it’s a gift that can’t be exactly improved upon. Improved I suppose but not to a noticeable difference. Rosen is pretty accurate. He fairly consistently puts it on the receivers hands for yac. He makes me nervous as far as his maturity. So a long way to evaluate him. Btw we need to get off the Darnold doesn’t want to play for the Browns thing. The only documented quote from him is he has no idea where that came from. So what do you believe? His words or “sauces”? I pray you are right about him willing to play for us. It will make it a lot easier on draft day, to at least be able to pick the one you really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Iamcanadian said: I pray you are right about him willing to play for us. It will make it a lot easier on draft day, to at least be able to pick the one you really want. There's a lot that can happen between now and the draft as well. Coleman can stay healthy and show out a bit, Gordon may return and look something like the Hash Gordon we remember from a few years ago, we can sign a free agent WR or two, etc. This roster has the makings of something decent and a whole lot of assets to finish the job. I think any potential draft pick would be able to see that if they cared to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 11/23/2017 at 5:19 AM, LETSGOBROWNIES said: There's a lot that can happen between now and the draft as well. Coleman can stay healthy and show out a bit, Gordon may return and look something like the Hash Gordon we remember from a few years ago, we can sign a free agent WR or two, etc. This roster has the makings of something decent and a whole lot of assets to finish the job. I think any potential draft pick would be able to see that if they cared to look. Unfortunately, all they read about, is how poor a 2 year record we have and likely to post a historical record. Some prospects will not see past that and might possibly recoil at being drafted by us, but I have no real knowledge of this happening as of now and I pray, it doesn't raise it face when players are declaring or during the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Time to give this a good old bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Time to give this a good old bump. Yes, please. Either, although I prefer Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioG Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Any QB who isnt anti clutch will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 They'll both stay to avoid the Browns at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Darnold by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelbell Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'd take either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, zelbell said: I'd take either But will Dorsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 3:18 PM, buno67 said: I believe that Rosen will just come in with a better foundation. I like UCLA’s coaches more than USCs. I want to say all the coaches who would of worked with the QBs are better at UCLA than USC. I like Mora more than Helton and I want to say a lot of the UCLA offensive staff has connection/background from working with Harbough. The one thing I like about Rosen is his feet. He seems to always have them in position to make the pass. It’s crazy to read up on how great of a tennis player he was. That he would of been one of the best amateur tennis players in the nation, believe he was a top10 player in the junior division (18 and under) in the tennis circuit. I think that tennis background gives him the great feet and hips. He might not be the best overall athlete but when it comes to just being a QB. I think he is a darn good athlete for a pocket passer. Hopefully both come out and for once the browns get to have a choice at which great QB to have Excellent post hope your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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