TransientTexan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, sinceAtikevike said: Using the rational actor model of decision-making, which would you choose- GB receives- Peanuts in draft pick comp, 40 million in dead cap in 2023, clean/clear of Rodgers for 2024 (& other teams knowing GB can be abused in negotiations. Less draft capital in 2025.) GB receives- Rodgers in the building (with all that entails) and a decision to make on the 23 option (don't exercise- 75m cap hit in 2023 or do exercise- Now there is a 70 million dead cap hit in 2024) (& other teams knowing not to get cute in GB negotiations after seeing the NYJ FO get fired. More draft capital in 2025) You are leaving out an important part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, sinceAtikevike said: Using the rational actor model of decision-making, which would you choose- GB receives- Peanuts in draft pick comp, 40 million in dead cap in 2023, clean/clear of Rodgers for 2024 GB receives- Rodgers in the building (with all that entails) and a decision to make on the 23 option (don't exercise- 75m cap hit in 2023 or do exercise- Now there is a 70 million dead cap hit in 2024) You’re forgetting at least one option. Trade him to another team for a better return and let him decide if he’ll play there or retire. I’d much rather he retire than take next to nothing for him. If that team (Steelers, Colts among others) make some adjustments for him he might suddenly have a philosophical change of heart. He sure doesn’t want to retire…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinceAtikevike Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, TransientTexan said: You are leaving out an important part. Now pick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Upfront, I will admit my bias as a Packers fan, but Mark Murphy saying that stuff about “if things don’t work out the way we want” leads me to think it’s the jets trying to lowball GB. Everyone likes to say Murphy is a goofball who talks too much, but he runs the show at the top one of the most famous and popular brands in sports: he knows exactly what he was saying. To me, he was indicating to the Jets that if they don’t get serious, we’ll just hang onto 12 and figure it out. We’re not giving him away. Now, it may not work out that way in the end, but that is what I took Murphy’s public play to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinceAtikevike Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, 15412 said: You’re forgetting at least one option. Trade him to another team for a better return and let him decide if he’ll play there or retire-Who? Why isn't this team involved now if they're willing to pay more than the Jets? Don't forget GB's downside in this if they can't find a trade partner- can't cut him, can't have him on the cap without exercising the option, can't exercise the option. I’d much rather he retire than take next to nothing for him. Will he quietly retire and concede to GB after he publicly stated he intends to play for the Jets? If that team (Steelers, Colts among others) make some adjustments for him he might suddenly have a philosophical change of heart. He sure doesn’t want to retire…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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15412 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, sinceAtikevike said: This team may very well be involved now, we don’t know. We also don’t know the Jets are lowballing, but if they are I would be up talking with every team I can and there are plenty. Make the trade and let Rodg decide. Play, or retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Rich Eisen and all the jets fans in media haha. Don’t you see their public therapy sessions everyday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, sinceAtikevike said: Now pick one. Option B, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) I mean, the thing about the Packers negotiating position is is the Jets aren't willing to make a good enough offer between now and the draft the Packers have absolutely no reason to consummate a trade between April 28th and June 1st. One imagines that the Jets would prefer to have Rodgers in the building during as much of the offseason program as possible, but don't really need to have him now. So I guess the question will be is if as we get closer to the draft whether the Jets get nervous about not having him before mid-June, and move off their current offer. 31 minutes ago, incognito_man said: They are being irrational if they aren't offering pick 13. It doesn't even need to be #13 straight up. In fact teams generally prefer to avoid trading a single pick for a single player to avoid "x was traded for y" comparisons. So something like "13 and 112 and a conditional '24 pick for Rodgers and #45" probably gets it done. That's "the Jets value Rodgers as a low 20s pick not a low teens pick"but I bet GB jumps on that. Edited March 22, 2023 by PossibleCabbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Mecole signing is making me pretty excited about the possibility of Elijah being included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 All you who are saying that Rodgers is washed have to remember that he was playing with a broken thumb last year, on his throwing hand. That thumb is now healed. Both the Jets and the Packers know that. Now I will concede that Rodgers has developed a tendency to choke in big games, but physically, he should be able to play at a relatively high level for a few more years. If the Jets are willing to work with that choking issue, and think he can overcome that to win a Super Bowl, then Rodgers is worth a couple of number 1s. If they don't think that, then they wouldn't/shouldn't have started the trade talks in the first place. Stick to your guns Gute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: Mecole signing is making me pretty excited about the possibility of Elijah being included 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Rodgers is breaking Cobbs heart… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I’m now thinking we’re gonna get there 2023 second rounder Swap 2023 first rounders. And then have a conditional 2024. Maybe a player in there as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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