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Rodgers to the Jets Trade Discussion


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  1. 1. Which team gives Rodgers the best shot in 2023?

    • Packers
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    • Somewhere else
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6 minutes ago, Brit Pack said:

I don't think though he would have come out on the Pat show and said it. If he wasn't sold on the Jets he could have said I'm not calling it day, I want to play, yes I spoke with the Jets and let's see where it goes. The Jets simple just make too much sense here with Hackett, a top 4 defence etc.

I just see it as a hierarchy of wants for Rodgers:

 

1. Play football in 2023

2. Play with my friends

3. Play for the Jets

He has chosen the Jets because they are offering #1 and #2 not because of #3. If another team steps up with an opportunity for #1`and #2, I don't think the Jets as a franchise will be the most important thing to Rodgers. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

 

New York Jets Receive:
#15
#116
QB Aaron Rodgers
'25 Conditional Pick**

Green Bay Packers Receive:
#13
#45
'24 Conditional Pick*
 

* For the conditional pick the Packers receive, the Packers receive a FRP if the Jets make it to the Super Bowl.  They receive a SRP if the Jets make the playoffs.  And if the Jets miss the playoffs all together, the Packers get a 3rd round pick for Aaron Rodgers.  If for some reason Rodgers doesn't play a single snap for the Jets, they owe the Packers nothing.

** For the Jets' conditional pick, the pick is extinguished if Rodgers plays even 1 snap in 2024 whether it be with the Jets or another team.  IF Rodgers doesn't play in 2024, the Jets receive a SRP if they give the Packers a FRP in 2023.  The Jets receive a 3rd round pick in 2025 if the Jets give the Packers a 2nd round pick in 2024.  And the Jets receive a 4th round pick if the Packers receive the Jets' 3rd round pick in 2024.

What say you Packers' fans?

Excluding the conditional picks, that's the value of trading Rodgers for the number 42 pick, #10 in round 2. Not enough for a QB the Jets hope put them over the top. 

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5 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

 

New York Jets Receive:
#15
#116
QB Aaron Rodgers
'25 Conditional Pick**

Green Bay Packers Receive:
#13
#45
'24 Conditional Pick*
 

* For the conditional pick the Packers receive, the Packers receive a FRP if the Jets make it to the Super Bowl.  They receive a SRP if the Jets make the playoffs.  And if the Jets miss the playoffs all together, the Packers get a 3rd round pick for Aaron Rodgers.  If for some reason Rodgers doesn't play a single snap for the Jets, they owe the Packers nothing.

** For the Jets' conditional pick, the pick is extinguished if Rodgers plays even 1 snap in 2024 whether it be with the Jets or another team.  IF Rodgers doesn't play in 2024, the Jets receive a SRP if they give the Packers a FRP in 2023.  The Jets receive a 3rd round pick in 2025 if the Jets give the Packers a 2nd round pick in 2024.  And the Jets receive a 4th round pick if the Packers receive the Jets' 3rd round pick in 2024.

What say you Packers' fans?

Why would we add 116 to that deal?

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6 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

 

New York Jets Receive:
#15
#116
QB Aaron Rodgers
'25 Conditional Pick**

Green Bay Packers Receive:
#13
#45
'24 Conditional Pick*
 

* For the conditional pick the Packers receive, the Packers receive a FRP if the Jets make it to the Super Bowl.  They receive a SRP if the Jets make the playoffs.  And if the Jets miss the playoffs all together, the Packers get a 3rd round pick for Aaron Rodgers.  If for some reason Rodgers doesn't play a single snap for the Jets, they owe the Packers nothing.

** For the Jets' conditional pick, the pick is extinguished if Rodgers plays even 1 snap in 2024 whether it be with the Jets or another team.  IF Rodgers doesn't play in 2024, the Jets receive a SRP if they give the Packers a FRP in 2023.  The Jets receive a 3rd round pick in 2025 if the Jets give the Packers a 2nd round pick in 2024.  And the Jets receive a 4th round pick if the Packers receive the Jets' 3rd round pick in 2024.

What say you Packers' fans?

I'm not giving up a conditional pick to the Jets if Rodgers doesn't play. The parameters of the deal need to be done as if Rodgers is playing for 1 year. The conditions attached reward the Packers if he plays 2 years for the Jets.

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38 minutes ago, Brit Pack said:

Point being if the price is low the number of buyers goes up. If the price was a second rounder which one of these teams that picks before the Jets would'nt be interested?

32) Pittsburgh Steelers 
33) Houston Texans
34) Arizona Cardinals
35) Indianapolis Colts
36) Los Angeles Rams
37) Seattle Seahawks 
38) Las Vegas Raiders
39) Carolina Panthers
40) New Orleans Saints
41) Tennessee Titans
42) Cleveland Browns

Certainly I agree the Jets is the perfect storm for Rodgers in terms of coaches, players already in place, they are ready to make a run. If anything that drives up the price as Rodgers would want the move bad as well.

None of these teams are a QB away from legitimately contending. Why would any of them waste all that cap space on a QB who is a shell of his former self instead of using that money elsewhere to build up their team to be competitive for years to come?

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We don’t know what the Packers are doing, but the longer this takes the more it looks like they are doing it right.

Absolutely do not take a low ball offer of any kind, stand your ground.  By all means talk to other teams.  If by draft day the Jets don’t want to step up trade him somewhere else and let him retire if he won’t go there.  Sure you’ll have to talk to him first and explain your side.  Play for them, get a contract done with them, or retire.

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It's been suggested that Gute might prefer to push a deal back to June 1, so that he could spread the cap over two seasons.  To what extent would that inconvenience the Jets, *IF* they hypothetically agreed to that  in advance, and planned accordingly?  I know traditionally some OTA's are in May and others in June, so Rodgers would probably miss a May set of OTA's?  Or, might the Jets even reschedule some OTA's so he wouldn't even miss the earlier set?  

*IF* they hypothetically had an agreement on a June 1 trade, would it be OK to announce that plan now?  so the absence of any such announcement proves no such agreement is in place?   Or would that be kind of a violation, so they'd have to wait until June 1 to announce anything, even if things are already planned?  I think that even if a formal announcement wasn't possible, leaking could and would happen.  So probably the absence of even a leak to that effect probably precludes any such scenario.  

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3 minutes ago, thrILL! said:

None of these teams are a QB away from legitimately contending. Why would any of them waste all that cap space on a QB who is a shell of his former self instead of using that money elsewhere to build up their team to be competitive for years to come?

If I'm the Hawks do I want Geno or Rodgers, if I'm the Texans do I want 1st rounder QB or Rodgers and let 1st rounder QB sit for a year or two, if I am the Raiders do I want Jimmy G or Rodgers, et etc.

To think Rodgers is that undervalued I feel is a misdemeanour. All these teams got a bit of cap space. You are bringing arguably the best thrower of the ball into your locker room and you can buy in the rest of the talent and go all in like the Bus and Rams did.

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2 hours ago, R T said:

The thing is does anyone know if the Jets are being unreasonable. 

No.  What could be holding it up other than compensation?  The return for him and/or the cap money distribution.  Not wanting to do it till June 1st?

In no way would I accept any more cap money responsibility than I hold presently.  I believe it’s either that expectation or the return for him.

I think it far more likely the Jets are trying to get him for cheap than the Packers trying to get a massive deal back for him in return.

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2 minutes ago, R T said:

The thing is does anyone know if the Jets are being unreasonable. 

No .. it could be the Packers that are jacking this thing up.  Not sure of that either.  Both sides are pretty tight lipped which is causing a ton of speculation.  Hopefully both sides hunker down at the owners meetings and meet in the middle somewhere. 

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8 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said:

You could make a case for the Steelers, Seahawks, and Raiders here.  Obviously there's a harder path in the AFC.

Seattle maybe but they already paid Geno who vastly outplayed Aaron last season. 

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