R T Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, sinceAtikevike said: For sure, the outcome of the trade has nothing to do with this thread on this site. I'm saying that the Jets front office has the same information as everybody else so they know Rodgers has to be dealt so arguments that stem from creating leverage by retaining Rodgers are not persuasive. No one in their right mind is claiming the Packers are retaining Rodgers. Both sides have a strong mutual interest to finalize the deal and it will be done at both FO's conveniences. In all likelihood the deal is probably 100% agree upon and for financial reasons they both have agreed to put it on hold. These doomsday scenarios for either side is complete crazy talk and a waste of everyones time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, R T said: No one in their right mind is claiming the Packers are retaining Rodgers. Both sides have a strong mutual interest to finalize the deal and it will be done at both FO's conveniences. In all likelihood the deal is probably 100% agree upon and for financial reasons they both have agreed to put it on hold. These doomsday scenarios for either side is complete crazy talk and a waste of everyones time. I agree that the idea that the Packers might retain Rodgers is bogus. That would be a really bad outcome for both teams. But I doubt there is an agreement. I think who gets the 13th pick is a real issue that has to be resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, sinceAtikevike said: I'm saying What you say means zilch. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, jetfuel34 said: WHAT??? Those teams don't want a 50 mill cap hit plus a 39 year old QB. Colts, They are in rebuild mode and had the worse OL in the league why would they want Rodgers and why would Rodgers want them. Wash??? REALLY. You think Rodgers would go to the worse owner in the league. This team maybe sold maybe not. Way to many ? marks with this team. The Redskins do not have the horse to make a deep run. 49ers REALLY??? They don't have a first round pick unlis like 2025 or later. Then you add the fact you gave up a boat load for Lance and you have a young Purdy that player great who may be ready by week 1. Then you add the fact they just signed Sam Darnold to be the back up incase Lance or Purdy are not ready. Just have to face it. The only team that makes sense was the Jets and Raiders. Once the Raiders took Jimmy G that killed it for the Packers. The Jets have options like trade for Stafford or Lamar. Heck there is even talks of Brady and Phil Rivers making a come back. In the end it will be close to this. Jets get Aaron Rodgers GB gets a 2nd round pick this year and a pick next year that could be as high as a 2nd if the jets win the super bowl but as low as a 5th if Rodgers and the Jets miss the ACFCC and Rodgers gets done after 1 year. JD pulled the Moore trade to fill in the 2nd he will give up. He has been well known to do this. If he gives up a high round pick he finds a way to replace it. The price has always been a first and more and that won't go down. If it was a 2and rounder Raiders would have been all over it, the Texans, Panthers etc would take that deal to mentor and sit behind their young QBs that they will take in April, a host of teams would have been in on it. The fact that the Jets only moved to Rodgers after Carr went to the Saints, literally the day after Carr went, the Jets big boys were in Malibu! They knew they had to pony up if the wanted a franchise QB. The hold up is Rodgers ain't committing to playing more than a season and the Jets won't pay $60m and go through the annual charade of will I play or not. Once Rodgers commits this deal is done. You really think this a haggle over compensation??? If it was it would have been done ages ago. They are trying to deal with the ego of the complex fella. When Rodgers goes on McAfee to say he ain't the hold up, he is the hold up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, R T said: No one in their right mind is claiming the Packers are retaining Rodgers. Both sides have a strong mutual interest to finalize the deal and it will be done at both FO's conveniences. In all likelihood the deal is probably 100% agree upon and for financial reasons they both have agreed to put it on hold. These doomsday scenarios for either side is complete crazy talk and a waste of everyones time. Hence Internet forum that means nothing in the grand scheme of life, the nfl, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, jetfuel34 said: GB gets a 2nd round pick this year and a pick next year that could be as high as a 2nd if the jets win the super bowl but as low as a 5th if Rodgers and the Jets miss the ACFCC and Rodgers gets done after 1 year. JD pulled the Moore trade to fill in the 2nd he will give up. He has been well known to do this. If he gives up a high round pick he finds a way to replace it. Has he replace the second overall pick he wasted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, BarnettOSU said: Can this just happen already so we can move on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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craig Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, R T said: No one in their right mind is claiming the Packers are retaining Rodgers. Both sides have a strong mutual interest to finalize the deal and it will be done at both FO's conveniences. In all likelihood the deal is probably 100% agree upon and for financial reasons they both have agreed to put it on hold. These doomsday scenarios for either side is complete crazy talk and a waste of everyones time. RT, is there a financial reason the Jets would want to wait? The Packers wanting to wait till June, I get that, if the deal is otherwise agreed upon. But how would that advantage the jets? (Other than being part of satisfying the Packers and getting the deal made.). Obviously waiting till June would mean waiting until after the 2023 draft. That would seem to be advantageous to the Jets. They are all in for now, so keeping all high picks this draft gives them more talent to compete with, at low cost, over the next couple of seasons. Giving up high picks in 24 would hurt less Question: No NFL rule against trading an April draft pick in June, is there? It would be hypothetically possible for the Jets to pre-arrange a selection on Gute's behalf. Gute says who he wants with one of their 2nd-round guys, and they then give him to us come June. That could be awkward. Jets rep runs up the name, guy jumps with joy and puts on a Jets hat. Jets talk him up. Guy goes to Jets rookie camp and gets coaches by their guys and in their schemes.... All while coaches know he's heading to Green Bay come June 1? Awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Interesting take. Kind of. Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I love this line The Packers want that pick (13) and that’s not all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnettOSU Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Packer_ESP said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Brit Pack said: I love this line The Packers want that pick (13) and that’s not all I mean mark Murphy even said it himself… they want this to go the way “they” want. there is only 2 deadlines for GB… draft and the start of the season. If the Jets make it blow past the draft, GB can destroy their season by either not trading Rodgers or waiting up until September 1 (which would destroy their season anyways). and I think the below post is funny but gets to the heart of something real too… how many more losing seasons does Robert and Joe get? Can they really mess around like this? If they screw up this trade and have another poor season… do they want to risk that? Edited March 24, 2023 by Green19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, craig said: RT, is there a financial reason the Jets would want to wait? The Packers wanting to wait till June, I get that, if the deal is otherwise agreed upon. But how would that advantage the jets? (Other than being part of satisfying the Packers and getting the deal made.). Obviously waiting till June would mean waiting until after the 2023 draft. That would seem to be advantageous to the Jets. They are all in for now, so keeping all high picks this draft gives them more talent to compete with, at low cost, over the next couple of seasons. Giving up high picks in 24 would hurt less Question: No NFL rule against trading an April draft pick in June, is there? It would be hypothetically possible for the Jets to pre-arrange a selection on Gute's behalf. Gute says who he wants with one of their 2nd-round guys, and they then give him to us come June. That could be awkward. Jets rep runs up the name, guy jumps with joy and puts on a Jets hat. Jets talk him up. Guy goes to Jets rookie camp and gets coaches by their guys and in their schemes.... All while coaches know he's heading to Green Bay come June 1? Awkward. The reason the Jets could be fine with waiting is that it gives them time to wait and see how the draft falls for them before having to make a few roster decisions for Rodgers contract. Plus, a small amount of cap flexibility between now and then. As for the trading of draft picks, I would guess if a 2023 pick is in the deal the Packers would just trade a like 2024 pick to the Jets during the draft and then when the trade is finalized in June the Jets would return that pick is part of the trade package. Could be made workable, but all just speculation of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, craig said: is there a financial reason the Jets would want to wait? No. Pre-June-1st or Post-June-1st makes zero difference to cap of the team receiving the player. 16 minutes ago, craig said: Question: No NFL rule against trading an April draft pick in June, is there? It would be hypothetically possible for the Jets to pre-arrange a selection on Gute's behalf. Gute says who he wants with one of their 2nd-round guys, and they then give him to us come June. I’ve heard that there is not technically a rule against it (obviously, if they have the rights to a player, they can trade him), but I believe it would be the first time for such a thing in the NFL (though some other sports do it). not sure if the league would care whether you prearranged it either, or if it would have to be done under the table. However, up until the draft, neither team knows which players will fall to eachother’s draft slots. So it would involve GB sharing some of its draft board with NYJ, rather than just 1-2 players. Gm’s might be reluctant to do that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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