big_palooka Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Take this Scott Winter stuff with a grain of salt. He doesn't know anything. He's piggy backing off a MMBQ report about Tice and throwing a bunch of speculation out there. Case and point this tweet: Gets another year based on firing his hand picked DC a season too late? Yeah.... no GM/owner is dumb enough to buy JDR has any impact in this defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Appointing Norv Turner makes sense and with Pagano at DC I’d be happy to give JDR another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Take this Scott Winter stuff with a grain of salt. He doesn't know anything. He's piggy backing off a MMBQ report about Tice and throwing a bunch of speculation out there. Case and point this tweet: Gets another year based on firing his hand picked DC a season too late? Yeah.... no GM/owner is dumb enough to buy JDR has any impact in this defense I actually see him getting another year, and I'm cool with that if they can actually get Norv Turner to run this offense, and let Pagano tailor the defense to his specifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Take this Scott Winter stuff with a grain of salt. He doesn't know anything. He's piggy backing off a MMBQ report about Tice and throwing a bunch of speculation out there. Case and point this tweet: Gets another year based on firing his hand picked DC a season too late? Yeah.... no GM/owner is dumb enough to buy JDR has any impact in this defense He knows more than your speculation and assumption even if he isnt 100. He is around the team more than you and around league press more that you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, NightTrainLane said: He knows more than your speculation and assumption even if he isnt 100. He is around the team more than you and around league press more that you. Ok Scott. Chill out. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Dessie said: Appointing Norv Turner makes sense and with Pagano at DC I’d be happy to give JDR another year. Turner is a good fit for Carr. His offense is simple, vertical, and relies on execution>scheme similar to Musgrave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 37 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: Turner is a good fit for Carr. His offense is simple, vertical, and relies on execution>scheme similar to Musgrave. IIRC Norv doesn't utilize his TE's often correct? Or am I getting mixed up with someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdigtheRaiders! Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Worst-case scenario, and one that I think is slightly more likely to happen than we think: We go into the 2018 season with the same coaching staff. Highly unlikely (I think Downing is good-as-gone, at least), but I think there’s a slightly-bigger chance that this happens than we would like. At the very least, I think we keep JDR and Pagano while replacing Downing. Not sure if I like the idea of moving on from Tice, but that’s obviously out of my hands. Major dark-house candidate here, but Jedd Fisch for OC? Someone look him up and tell me what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 46 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: IIRC Norv doesn't utilize his TE's often correct? Or am I getting mixed up with someone else? Opposite he gets them involved it’s Mike Martz who doesn’t even look the TE’s way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, SimonGruber said: Opposite he gets them involved it’s Mike Martz who doesn’t even look the TE’s way Gotcha. Thanks! What else does Norv do well? Does he utilize his backs in the passing game lots? PBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Rich7sena said: Turner is a good fit for Carr. His offense is simple, vertical, and relies on execution>scheme similar to Musgrave. Vertical and Derek Carr? How is that a fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, dante9876 said: Ok Scott. Chill out. ???????? Damn I wish! I would love to ask the team and coaches questions...and not the softballs most of the media tosses up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, SilverNBlackFan said: Vertical and Derek Carr? How is that a fit Because it was the offense that he ran in college and set records. And it was the aspect of the offense last year were he excelled at the end of games and was near unstoppable. In the past in the spread and vertical offense, he kills it. Then came this year and he took a step back. I still think the injuries and fear in the pocket were the major factor in the offense being out of sync. If the vertical offense is something the team wants to go to then Koetter is still gonna be an option, if he gets canned from TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, SilverNBlackFan said: Vertical and Derek Carr? How is that a fit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOY79KlNJ8 Dude, don't even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Rich7sena said: Turner is a good fit for Carr. His offense is simple, vertical, and relies on execution>scheme similar to Musgrave. Turner also likes to a run a power run scheme as well doesn’t he? I think Washington might suit Turner as well as he likes scat back types. Don’t think we have used Washington enough but that’s down to lack of opportunities I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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