MWil23 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 1:04 PM, jrry32 said: That's odd. I know Murray can be a difficult personality, but he's not a bad QB. He’s worse than a bad quarterback. He’s an eternal limbo land quarterback who doesn’t ever get you the opportunity to be bad enough to pick high or good enough to be a viable contender, all while having a horrendous contract and attitude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Broncofan said: At this point the only way this flies PR-wise is if Payton wants Evero as his DC as plan A. There's nothing wrong with contingency interviews (Flores, Desai) in case Evero gets hired as HC in IND/ARI. And if Payton's blocking the interviews with other DC jobs because Payton wants him as plan A, and Flores/Desai are plan B's he's figuring out in case Evero is tagged as HC, then it's all good. Payton has the right to block interviews for sure, but it will be a bad look if he's not committing to Evero as DC, either. The DEN insiders all say he still wants Evero - whether Evero gets the HC job, or Evero wants to stay (because Hackett and he were apparently best friends, that's the rub), that's what's unclear. Do teams typically have these leaks for contingency plans? Even for other coordinators getting hired, I’m not hearing anything about other team’s backup plans for those positions. I’m assuming Justin Outten was fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) On 2/4/2023 at 2:21 PM, Broncofan said: We don't even know who they are, since the last round 2 interview happens today (Steichen?). LOL. Are you laughing because Steichen is an interview or it's taking this long for Indy to 💩 or get off the pot? 100% certain Jim Irsay is drafting a QB somewhere in the top 4 picks. Evero doesn't help that Rookie QB as a Defensive coach, maybe his OC does, whomever that might be? Steichen is Offensive minded. Would instantly attempt groom (Young, Stroud, Levis) much like Andy Reid did Mahomes, Zach Taylor did Burrow, Pederson did TLaw. Sirianni did Hurts. Shane Steichen already worked with Justin Herbert his rookie season, worked with Jalen Hurts the last 2 seasons. Far worse OC/Offensive minded HC candidates out there if you're trying to "groom" a FQB for the future. Just saying. Edited February 7, 2023 by Nabbs4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Are laughing because Steichen is an interview or it's taking this long fir Indy to 💩 or get off the pot? 100% certain Jim Irsay is drafting a QB somewhere in the top 4 picks. Evero doesn't help that Rookie QB as a Defensivecoach, maybe his OC does? Steichen is Offensive minded. Would instantly attempt groom (Young, Stroud, Levis) much like Andy Reid did Mahomes, Zach Taylor did Burrow, Pederson did TLaw. Sirianni did Hurts. Shane Steichen already worked with Justin Herbert his rookie season, worked with Jalen Hurts the last 2 seasons. Far worse OC/Offensive minded HC candidates out there if you're trying to "groom" a FQB for the future. Just saying. Laughing at IND needing a Rd3 with Saturday still in the mix. That’s a disaster. They’ve spent 7-8 hours in person with the Rd2 candidates. You don’t need a Rd3 with 4+ guys. Nothing against Steichen - he’s an awesome QB whisperer (if Staley had kept him, far diff result the last 2 years in LAC IMO) - I think he's the last Rd2 interview, though, all I was saying. The Colts shouldn't need a Rd3 with 4+ more interviews having spent so much time with each guy already. Edited February 4, 2023 by Broncofan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Acgott said: Do teams typically have these leaks for contingency plans? Even for other coordinators getting hired, I’m not hearing anything about other team’s backup plans for those positions. I’m assuming Justin Outten was fired? The difference here is you don't have 2 HC positions still in limbo, and him as a viable candidate this late. Last year, all 9 teams hired their HC's by Feb. 7th (Monday), and it was well known who it was going to be before then for all but MIA, and most had in fact done the hire by this week - and started on filling staff positions. The other part - requests for permission to interview aren't leaks on their end. It's procedural, and becomes known pretty quickly. The difference is the need to have these interviews is now. Normally, the HC spots are pretty much decided by now, but this year, that's not the case - hence the overlap. This year, we're literally 2 days away from the same point - and we have no idea with IND, with at LEAST 4 viable candidates, according to all reports. ARI seems like it's Flores, but Vance Joseph (lol) and Evero are still finalists there too. Remember, DEN didn't start asking for extra interviews until Thu/Fri this week - last year, and in other years, the teams had all made their HC hire decisions clear by Monday before Super Bowl. Not this year for IND/ARI. Again, if Payton refuses the interviews AND he doesn't want Evero to stay, terrible look. But the HC position being open for Evero does make this far more fluid - and the time IND is taking is certainly making it clear the final decision isn't happening soon. Outten was already given permission to interview - which indicates they've already agreed to move on. If Evero is hired as HC, Denver's interviewed 2 guys. No controversy. If Evero isn't hired as HC, and DEN keeps him as the DC, all good. That's the benefit of having him under contract. If Evero isn't hired as HC, and he wants out - then DEN has a tougher decision. Even that's not clear, though. But yes, if Evero isn't hired, and Payton doesn't want him - total d.ouchebag move. But we have 4 diff scenarios at play here - and the timeframe where coordinator positions are getting filled usually happens now. So kinda need to let it play out to see what's what. Edited February 4, 2023 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Broncofan said: The difference here is you don't have 2 HC positions still in limbo, and him as a viable candidate this late. Last year, all 9 teams hired their HC's by Feb. 7th (Monday), and it was well known who it was going to be before then for all but MIA, and most had in fact done the hire by this week - and started on filling staff positions. I don’t disagree with what you are saying, but it still seems the Broncos are the only team with candidates. Half the NFL has coordinators on watch right now for those 2 head coach jobs. I’ll love for the Giants to start interviewing people now for both their spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Acgott said: I don’t disagree with what you are saying, but it still seems the Broncos are the only team with candidates. Half the NFL has coordinators on watch right now for those 2 head coach jobs. I’ll love for the Giants to start interviewing people now for both their spots. While the DEN HC spot desirability might have been debatabale given the uncertainty with Russell Wilson's ability to be fixed, and the pick capital lost - the DEN DC spot has to be one of the top coordinator spots available. They can pretty much pick from the top. Desai apparently turned down MIN's request himself already - he wants the DEN job that badly. So in a lot of ways, the DEN DC job spot likely creates a domino effect for DC hires, just as Fangio going to MIA created one on his own. Really, ARI/IND HC hires create the next ripple, then DEN DC hire likely creates the 2nd ripple after that. Edited February 4, 2023 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Broncofan said: While the DEN HC spot desirability might have been debatabale given the uncertainty with Russell Wilson's ability to be fixed, and the pick capital lost - the DEN DC spot has to be one of the top coordinator spots available. They can pretty much pick from the top. Desai apparently turned down MIN's request himself already - he wants the DEN job that badly. So in a lot of ways, the DEN DC job spot likely creates a domino effect for DC hires, just as Fangio going to MIA created one on his own. Really, ARI/IND HC hires create the next ripple, then DEN DC hire likely creates the 2nd ripple after that. Yes, that’s an interesting decision for Desai. Banking a lot on Evero getting the HC job, you only have so many opportunities to climb the tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 In case it wasn’t clear about how much the IND HC search might drag on…lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber11 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I think right now it’s Anarumo’s job to lose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sdrawkcab321 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Acgott said: I’m guessing he’s upset he didn’t get the HC job and wants out. But if this is Peyton’s decision it’s pretty stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Acgott said: Come to SF. Be a head coach in two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Broncofan said: In case it wasn’t clear about how much the IND HC search might drag on…lol. Lmao I forgot that job is still open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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