warfelg Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I mean I get it that the $63M signing bonus is really low and most of the guarantees are based on him being healthy and on the roster, but it's Patrick freaking Mahomes, of course he's going to be on the roster on the first day of league year 2023...it's the same with Lamar. You're the franchise QB, the team isn't gonna cut you! It's a creative way of giving a QB $.5B while also working around the cap. Which is why it's such a good value for the Chiefs and IMO is standing in the way of QB's getting fully guaranteed contracts. Mahomes didn't get one and he's, as you said Patrick freaking Mahomes. Just saying - if I were in a position of QB or agent, I would be asking why he took that to help the team so much and that him not having it hurts my players or my ability to push for more. As for Hurts - the structure is going to be important. I got a feeling when we see this structure we're going to have a similar reaction to what we had with Mahomes. "Woah he got paid". "Wait a minute". "Wow the team is really making out here". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, malak1 said: Then he's underpaid, imo. How? He'll make double what Hurts does and tbh there's no way Hurts signs another massive deal in 4-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 NFL QB Existing: "Hey Im the 6th best QB in the NFL, thats pretty cool NFL Front Offices: "Lets completely reset the market and make this guy the highest paid player in NFL history" In all seriousness, great player and deserved to be paid. Glad Philly can lock in their guy who earned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, malak1 said: Do you think Mahomes is better and will be better than Jalen Hurts moving forward? God I hope so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, warfelg said: Which is why it's such a good value for the Chiefs and IMO is standing in the way of QB's getting fully guaranteed contracts. Mahomes didn't get one and he's, as you said Patrick freaking Mahomes. Just saying - if I were in a position of QB or agent, I would be asking why he took that to help the team so much and that him not having it hurts my players or my ability to push for more. As for Hurts - the structure is going to be important. I got a feeling when we see this structure we're going to have a similar reaction to what we had with Mahomes. "Woah he got paid". "Wait a minute". "Wow the team is really making out here". Well yeah Mahomes went his own route and did a record-setting deal in his own way. No QB has ever gotten $500M or 10 years. I don't think he took that deal to help the team. I feel like he took that deal just to not have to come back 3 years later and re-negotiate again. But I'm not Patrick Mahomes so idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: He'll make double what Hurts does Not within the same timeframe. 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: there's no way Hurts signs another massive deal in 4-5 years. How could you possibly know this? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, malak1 said: 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: Yes, yes, MY GOD… yes. Then he's underpaid, imo. Oh… THAT’S what you were getting at! I was seriously about to punt a raccoon I was so upset at the question. I go back to what Tom Brady did all those years - never being the highest paid QB but winning a lot of SB rings. By pure dollars and cents - yeah, he’s underpaid. But if you follow history, people don’t win a lot of Super Bowls (read: more than one) when they’re getting paid the most. It’s all about priorities, I guess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I think we can all agree upon that when Mahomes signed his contract he knew he wasnt going to be the highest paid QB and it was very much a team friendly deal. Almost like he wanted it and wanted to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, malak1 said: Not within the same timeframe. Even in the same time frame don't they make somewhat the same? Idk the yearly details of Mahomes' deal. Just now, malak1 said: How could you possibly know this? Hurts is another QB whose game isn't going to translate into his 30's and when his team starts to have to make crucial cuts to be under the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: It all comes down to what the player wants, honestly. Like we all just assume every guy wants to be the highest paid player ever every 3 years, maybe that's just not the case here. We all "just assume" that since that's what the overwhelming majority of players want. There's a reason that every new contract resets the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Oh… THAT’S what you were getting at! I was seriously about to punt a raccoon I was so upset at the question. I go back to what Tom Brady did all those years - never being the highest paid QB but winning a lot of SB rings. By pure dollars and cents - yeah, he’s underpaid. But if you follow history, people don’t win a lot of Super Bowls (read: more than one) when they’re getting paid the most. It’s all about priorities, I guess. I agree with everything here. I was just stating that, if we go by the market, Mahomes is underpaid. I think the Chiefs are in good shape for the better part of a decade given Mahomes' contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Only reason why I didn’t have a long depression after the loss in the Super Bowl was because of Hurts. Dude played amazing, even more so when you actually break down what Spags was doing. Just felt good knowing you got the guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, Kiltman said: Only reason why I didn’t have a long depression after the loss in the Super Bowl was because of Hurts. Dude played amazing, even more so when you actually break down what Spags was doing. Just felt good knowing you got the guy Must be nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, malak1 said: I agree with everything here. I was just stating that, if we go by the market, Mahomes is underpaid. I think the Chiefs are in good shape for the better part of a decade given Mahomes' contract. 100% agree, and I think Mahomes is in good shape. I mean - let’s be real, it’s not like his kids or his grandkids are going to have to take out student loans or finance a car. He didn’t prioritize money in relation to what sort of return he could get - he prioritized positioning himself to win, and that’s something he does well. No shame in his game, I say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I mean I get it that the $63M signing bonus is really low and most of the guarantees are based on him being healthy and on the roster, but it's Patrick freaking Mahomes, of course he's going to be on the roster on the first day of league year 2023...it's the same with Lamar. You're the franchise QB, the team isn't gonna cut you! It's a creative way of giving a QB $.5B while also working around the cap. Yeah it’s why I said that the 500 mill is basically fully guaranteed. He’s gonna hit all the escalators 8 minutes ago, ET80 said: Bingo. This is very reminiscent to Giselle’s ex-husband. Does anyone here think that guy wins seven SBs with market setting deals? Mahomes is obviously chasing a legacy here. When you get the glory the bag will follow you soon afterwards 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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