BackinBlack Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: For those supporting the Wilson pick can you please give me a list of top tier pass rushers who’s weaknesses are first step, burst, explosiveness and bend? TJ Watt draft profile? Weaknesses Not overly twitched-up as an athlete Short strider who lacks explosion out of stance and up the field to bend the edge as a pass rusher Foot quickness is average and needs to win with technique and great hand play Won't generate enough acceleration to crank up speed-to-power rush with consistency Plays with a narrow base Needs to play with more consistent bend to play through redirection by offensive line Will have to add power in his base to hold point of attack against tackles Pass rush menu will need more options against NFL tackles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 I'm going to give it a conditional B grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Gotta pray and trust ted here. Stylistically I loved Nolan Smith. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: TJ Watt draft profile? Weaknesses Not overly twitched-up as an athlete Short strider who lacks explosion out of stance and up the field to bend the edge as a pass rusher Foot quickness is average and needs to win with technique and great hand play Won't generate enough acceleration to crank up speed-to-power rush with consistency Plays with a narrow base Needs to play with more consistent bend to play through redirection by offensive line Will have to add power in his base to hold point of attack against tackles Pass rush menu will need more options against NFL tackles 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: TJ Watt draft profile? Weaknesses Not overly twitched-up as an athlete Short strider who lacks explosion out of stance and up the field to bend the edge as a pass rusher Foot quickness is average and needs to win with technique and great hand play Won't generate enough acceleration to crank up speed-to-power rush with consistency Plays with a narrow base Needs to play with more consistent bend to play through redirection by offensive line Will have to add power in his base to hold point of attack against tackles Pass rush menu will need more options against NFL tackles Very similar to Trey flowers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: TJ Watt draft profile? Weaknesses Not overly twitched-up as an athlete Short strider who lacks explosion out of stance and up the field to bend the edge as a pass rusher Foot quickness is average and needs to win with technique and great hand play Won't generate enough acceleration to crank up speed-to-power rush with consistency Plays with a narrow base Needs to play with more consistent bend to play through redirection by offensive line Will have to add power in his base to hold point of attack against tackles Pass rush menu will need more options against NFL tackles Comparing him to someone that literally tested in the 99th percentile at the combine? lmfao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, RaidersAreOne said: TJ Watt's testing numbers were in the 90th+ percentile across the board... can't make this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Wilson reminds me more of a Mack/Aldon hybrid (ironically both a Raider) than Watt. I think Van Ness of this class is Watt. Edited April 28, 2023 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Comparing him to someone that literally tested in the 99th percentile at the combine? lmfao lol i was just answering your question . .. never comparing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 gonzalez dropping hard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: How does one improve first step? I feel like you either have that reaction time or you don't. To be fair, it's the same reason you think someone who hasn't ever accurately thrown a football will all of the sudden learn how to: Coaching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, BackinBlack said: lol i was just answering your question . .. never comparing I asked how many players have been good pass rushers that lacked bend, burst, and an explosive first step so you used TJ Watt, one of the most athletic players in the history of the NFL draft, as your counter? Did you understand the question or are you just that dense? It's like saying how many small OT's have been great and you use Trent Brown as your example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 We would have gotten real bad value on Gonzalez in hindsight. Pick 17? 3rd corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 wish we traded up for gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, roi34 said: wish we traded up for gonzo Cam smith or clark phillips in round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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