CWood21 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Leader said: If we missed out on Alt/Fashanuk that'd be the ideal the scenario to trade down for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, CWood21 said: If we missed out on Alt/Fashanuk that'd be the ideal the scenario to trade down for. Given our draft capital we should be able to snag one of those two if that's the true target. We're going to have two 2nds, two 3rds and two 4ths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Old Guy said: Jayden Daniels will be a 23-year-old rookie. Probably the only thing keeping him from being much higher ranked by these websites. I wonder where scouts have him ranked and how far down, they move him because of his age. Caleb Williams is 22 (we share a birthday, but I had it first LOL), Drake Maye is 21. If there were any way Daniels falls to the second round where we have our 1-SRP, I'm taking him. I don't see him getting there though. I got a feeling he's going to be a Viking. The problem isn't just his age. It's the fact that he played okay (at best) at Arizona State, and then went to LSU and he suddenly is a Heisman candidate. And it's not like the player himself changed drastically. He was always a guy you were drooling on because of this athleticism, but he was short in terms of football skills. This isn't the LSU of old that looked more like Iowa than USC. Since 2017, LSU has been a top 40 team offensively all but 1 year. During that period, they had Joe Burrow (2018/2019), Max Johnson (2020/2021), and Jayden Daniels (2022/2023) as their starting QBs. He's shown quite a bit of growth, but he's still closer to his Arizona State days than he is Caleb Williams. In terms of value, you can probably get him quite a bit later than Caleb Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Given our draft capital we should be able to snag one of those two if that's the true target. We're going to have two 2nds, two 3rds and two 4ths. I mean, I think it's rather unrealistic but getting that kind of trade down value would be insane. It'd need some team to really have a clear WR2 or EDGE1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, CWood21 said: The problem isn't just his age. It's the fact that he played okay (at best) at Arizona State, and then went to LSU and he suddenly is a Heisman candidate. And it's not like the player himself changed drastically. He was always a guy you were drooling on because of this athleticism, but he was short in terms of football skills. This isn't the LSU of old that looked more like Iowa than USC. Since 2017, LSU has been a top 40 team offensively all but 1 year. During that period, they had Joe Burrow (2018/2019), Max Johnson (2020/2021), and Jayden Daniels (2022/2023) as their starting QBs. He's shown quite a bit of growth, but he's still closer to his Arizona State days than he is Caleb Williams. In terms of value, you can probably get him quite a bit later than Caleb Williams. That is sort of what I said, he's a guy I'd take in second round. Also, the surrounding talent matters. I watched him a couple of games at ASU, you could see his talent, but not much talent around him. Do believe he was a 5 star recruit coming out of high school in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 28 minutes ago, CWood21 said: The problem isn't just his age. It's the fact that he played okay (at best) at Arizona State, and then went to LSU and he suddenly is a Heisman candidate. *cough* Herm Edwards *cough* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaire_Island Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Nixon injured. Ohh man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 We're gonna draft a QB earlyish in 2024 and MLF and Love are both going to get 2024 as one last year to right the ship IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: We're gonna draft a QB earlyish in 2024 and MLF and Love are both going to get 2024 as the year to win the 'ship IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonablySober Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The thing about the WR class is you can get excited in the top 15 over, like, seven guys. Legette might my favorite non-MHG/Bowers/QB guy in the draft and I sometimes see him mocked in the 2nd and 3rd. Insane class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 hours ago, CWood21 said: The problem isn't just his age. It's the fact that he played okay (at best) at Arizona State, and then went to LSU and he suddenly is a Heisman candidate. And it's not like the player himself changed drastically. He was always a guy you were drooling on because of this athleticism, but he was short in terms of football skills. This isn't the LSU of old that looked more like Iowa than USC. Since 2017, LSU has been a top 40 team offensively all but 1 year. During that period, they had Joe Burrow (2018/2019), Max Johnson (2020/2021), and Jayden Daniels (2022/2023) as their starting QBs. He's shown quite a bit of growth, but he's still closer to his Arizona State days than he is Caleb Williams. In terms of value, you can probably get him quite a bit later than Caleb Williams. Your problems with him is that he grew from his time at Arizona St and that he plays on a good offense ? Youre way off base on this one. I still think he overtakes Maye, but I’m very confident he’s a top 16 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 There's your guy Morgan @beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Draft Needs: QB only if Williams or Maye, likely requiring a trade up (boo). RB, and I like those mid rounds to grab two. Willing to get Shipley for a 2 at the moment but it’s RB so its losing every tiebreaker on the draft board. WR only a true WR1 as in Harrison, possibly one or two other freaks. TE gotta think they don’t want to spend another early pick with Musgrave a bonafide thug, plus Kraft developing. OL can be drafted anytime, and up to three times prior to round 6 depending on Myers/Runyan FA. DL depends on coordinator, possibly early, possibly none. LB same as DL but should be someone at least. DB an absolute slugfest multiple DBs anytime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I'm so pumped for the draft already just to see how many OL we get 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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