43M Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Dallas doesn't have Kellen Moore anymore. Who is going to be good for Lance's development there? And a 4th is insanely high for a guy who just hasn't played any football. Seems like a win for the 49ers and a head scratcher for the Cowboys. Cowboys betting on themselves here. They likely believe that 4th will be a late one and that Lance has enough upside that its worth it and a change of scenery might help. Most 4th rounders dont amount to much. I don't think its that bad of a swap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Im guessing something isnt going right in the practices because it makes no sense otherwise to trade him when the QBs are the roster are so cheap Supposedly hadb shown significant improvement in tc, and the press line Jack Hammer said he should have been QB 2. Kawakami said if he and Darnold were battling for starting QB gig instead of backup, they probably would have went with Lance. I think that Lance fell into shanny's doghouse because he wasn't what shanny expected and that was that. They missed the eval. They thought he was the most pro ready QB in the draft (not a joke... Edit- I think they said more pro ready than Mac though, not most pro ready overall .... Would have to find the schefty clip) and an athletic freak and when he wasn't either of those, I think shanny was pretty out on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 It's an over pay from Dallas they should have stuff with a 5th or a 6th. There is no market for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, 43M said: Cowboys betting on themselves here. They likely believe that 4th will be a late one and that Lance has enough upside that its worth it and a change of scenery might help. Most 4th rounders dont amount to much. I don't think its that bad of a swap. Dak the QB is a 4th. Pat's got Moss for a 4th We got Cooper for a 5th. 4s and 5s ain't nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 How warm is Shanny’s seat, if at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Dak the QB is a 4th. Pat's got Moss for a 4th We got Cooper for a 5th. 4s and 5s ain't nothing. Yeah....if you ignore all the other data, thats a pretty good argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, malak1 said: How warm is Shanny’s seat, if at all? Not even remotely room temperature 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Forge said: Given the cost they paid to get him, absolutely in the running for worst pick ever. You can maybe try and smooth it out by saying "but yeah, those picks were both like #29 in the round", but its still three firsts. RG3 had a comparable cost but at least they got one banger year. Bryce Young had a similar cost (DJ moore in lieu of the third first round pick), but at least they are going to find out on Young. That's kind of the real crime here on the 49ers here - they still have no idea what they just traded. That said, not the worst trade in 49er history, which is impressive. They once gave up the #1 overall pick for OJ Simpson. I still laugh to see what teams used to give up for a Runningback. I heard this one time a team traded so much that they basically built a dynasty for their trade partner...crazy😅😅 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said: Dak the QB is a 4th. Pat's got Moss for a 4th We got Cooper for a 5th. 4s and 5s ain't nothing. You got Cooper for a 5th cause Dallas didn't want him anymore. Other teams likely don't make that deal. And Dak for a 4th was just pure luck. Most 4th and 5th don't work out. Some obviously do but the odds are not great. So yeah I would take a chance on a young QB who was drafted high. Edited August 26, 2023 by ACO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, 43M said: Yeah....if you ignore all the other data, thats a pretty good argument. It just shows that they are not worth nothing. And especially when you stock pile them. Plenty of good backup and good sters are found in these round to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaReylo Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Forge said: Justin Fields should be so thankful they passed on him. I think Kyle would have crushed him too at this point. I'm almost positive. For obvious reasons, I'm thankful Lynch or Shanahan passed on Fields too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Bills apparently made an offer too. Would have liked to see him come in as QB2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Kiwibrown said: It just shows that they are not worth nothing. And especially when you stock pile them. Plenty of good backup and good sters are found in these round to. Im not saying they aren't worth anything. But, IN MOST CASES, 4th rounders dont amount to much. Draft picks are always a gamble, and if Cowboys see enough in him, I dont think a 4 is that bad. Lance is only 23 with elite physical tools. I dont think much comes of it, but I doubt they lose sleep over losing a 4th, even if he doesn't do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Trentwannabe said: Bills apparently made an offer too. Would have liked to see him come in as QB2. I considered the bills as a good destination too. I think that would have been good for him. Clearly the niners just wanted the best offer and don't care about what was good for Trey because he's just as blocked in Dallas as he is in SF lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Forge said: I considered the bills as a good destination too. I think that would have been good for him. Clearly the niners just wanted the best offer and don't care about what was good for Trey because he's just as blocked in Dallas as he is in SF lol yeah, SF likely took the best offer vs what was best for Lance's development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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