Danger Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 14 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Odunze is so overrated to me š Has great work ethic, good athlete/size, and he catches ~75% of contested catches. Most good WRs are close to 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, DoleINGout said: Odunze is so overrated to me š I don't think he's "so" overrated.Ā I think he's a little overrated.Ā He's a great prospect that some people think is a true blue chip. Like honestly, the only thing that I worry about is the lack of separation.Ā That's normally a huge red flag, but not always.Ā Could just be the scheme.Ā Speed is good enough, size is great, route running is good, contested catch ability is elite, intangibles seem to be elite. Nickname ability (Doomsday) is super elite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I suppose if me putting him in the conversation with MH and Nabers and thinking he could be the best WR in this draft could be āoverratingā him but if he makes it out of the top 10, Iād be shocked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 hours ago, Tugboat said: I'd say they're both at least on the cusp at their respective position.Ā I don't know what team wouldn't kill for a guy like that with a super premium pick even.Ā Especially when you're talking about that ultra valuable rookie deal.Ā That's what youĀ hopeĀ that your top pick WR pans out to be. Ā I think the biggest question is...who in this class is a "better" prospect?Ā It's just really WR and OT heavy at the top.Ā Plus the QBs who sort of...exist outside the normal hierarchy anyway.Ā Maybe not "better prospects" but likely to be picked earlier anyway because QB is such a premium.Ā Most other things...you're really just "reaching" for position in this draft. Regarding Sutton and Pittman--I think they're probably tier-3 receivers behind tier-2 guys like Evans and Allen and tier-1 guys like Jefferson and Chase. I think Odunze's best outcome is a high-volume big slot like Michael Thomas, but that type of production is subject to the right situation. In my mind, Odunze is at least behind the top 3 quarterbacks, top 3 tackles (including Fuaga), and the top 2 receivers. He's in the mix with Arnold, Turner, Bowers, and maybe JPJ for me in the next group. This is also a deep receiver draft. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 22 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Went back and watched a lot of Xavier Worthy after his fast 40 time and I've got to say, I'm more impressed than I expected. I liked him as a route runner before, I like him more now - more refined in his start/stop than I remembered. He can track a football, he transitions to become a runner after the catch so effortlessly. YAC are always on the cards with this guy. Whether you want him doing that at his size, is another question. Play strength is an issue, but he's not John Ross. He is a skilled receiver.Ā Yup. Worthy is somehow still being slept on. He was absolutely electric at times.Ā Edited March 6 by NudeTayne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) I will say Marvin Harrison Jr is lucky the rule of ugly only applies to QB's, or he'd have bust written all over his face. Edited March 5 by Jeezla 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jeezla said: I will say Marvin Harrison Jr is lucky the rule of ugly only applies to QB's, or he'd have bust written all over his face. Ā Edited March 5 by Daniel probably shouldn't have been said anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Rank these 5: Adonai Mitchell Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy Don't give me any "Depends what you already have" BS. Pretend you have nothing and you just need a good WR, period. What order would you take them in? Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Jeezla said: Rank these 5: Adonai Mitchell Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy Don't give me any "Depends what you already have" BS. Pretend you have nothing and you just need a good WR, period. What order would you take them in? Ā Just swap Thomas and Mitchell on that list and that's the ranking imo.Ā I wish the broadcast didn't cut off the drills for the second group of receivers, because I wanted to see Thomas.Ā He and Mitchell are like neck and neck for me, but Thomas plays faster.Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Rank these 5: Adonai Mitchell Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy Don't give me any "Depends what you already have" BS. Pretend you have nothing and you just need a good WR, period. What order would you take them in? Ā BTJr AD Mitchell Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, Daniel said: He looks like Mr. Popo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, MaddHatter said: BTJr AD Mitchell Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy Iām afraid that Iām getting MVS with Brian Thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 47 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Rank these 5: Adonai Mitchell Brian Thomas Jr Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Xavier Worthy Don't give me any "Depends what you already have" BS. Pretend you have nothing and you just need a good WR, period. What order would you take them in? Ā Probably the order you have, but Worthy over Ladd.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Man I hope you two are young enough that you don't know what you just did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Soko said: Iām afraid that Iām getting MVS with Brian Thomas. I think itās fair, but BTJ has a higher ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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