MaddHatter Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Saw a comp for Xavier Worthy as DeSean Jackson - similar size, build and speed. Legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, MaddHatter said: Saw a comp for Xavier Worthy as DeSean Jackson - similar size, build and speed. Legit? Jackson had playmaking (i.e. open-field vision) that I have not seen from Worthy. Also, I never had an issue with Jackson's hands. Worthy reminds me most of Curtis Samuel because it all looks pretty good until he has to catch the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) I never watched any Florida State games. Can Johnny Wilson actually play or is he just a big body? With his size and athletic profile he could be a red zone God if he actually has skills. Edited March 3 by rob_shadows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 41 minutes ago, MaddHatter said: Saw a comp for Xavier Worthy as DeSean Jackson - similar size, build and speed. Legit? From a build and speed point, yes. DJax was one of the best ever deep ball trackers I've ever seen, and that's a tough comp to make. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 11 hours ago, Danger said: Coleman is a true X. Brian Thomas Jr. is a big Z This is pretty simplistic, but it does convey a pretty reasonable point/comparison between the two. Though the thing with Brian Thomas Jr. is obviously just trying to figure out if he can be more of that true "X" or not. He just wasn't really asked to be that because of the scheme and especially with Nabers in the fold. So you're sort of reading flashes and traits and projecting, which is risky. At worst, he's gonna be a physically gifted Z. But every now and then, you see a little flourish of something a little bit more well-rounded. Might end up taking a minute to really get him coached up. If the movement skills check out to support it - and i think they might, as he doesn't seem rigidly linear to me and with good body control downfield. But you're still getting a very useful mismatch role player Big Z in the meantime. 4 hours ago, Danger said: Maybe exaggeration but I get weird Kelvin Benjamin vibes from him. I just really don't get a Coleman = Benjamin comp at all. Other than the jersey. Benjamin was just a tall guy who could run down the sideline and out-tall college DBs. Epitome of a "one trick pony". Super rigid, linear athlete. Coleman isn't ultra explosive or dynamic per se, but he's a much smoother all-around athlete, route runner, and receiver. Not just a "jump ball specialist" whatseover. 41 minutes ago, rob_shadows said: I never watched any Florida State games. Can Johnny Wilson actually play or is he just a big body? With his size and athletic profile he could be a red zone God if he actually has skills. Not really. lol. Johnny Wilson is just a bizarre awkward "tweener" to me. He's too ponderous and reliant on "build up speed" with very little agility or quickness to be much of an effective WR. But doesn't really seem to have the build or play strength to be a real TE. Also just doesn't have the short area traits to be effective that way. Nor does he seem to have a lot of natural, or even coached in "football instincts". Just a tall, rigid, linear, build up speed receiver. Maybe you can turn him into an actual poor man's Kelvin Benjamin, or that guy from Michigan that sucked. Or maybe you can convert him to some sort of flexed out specialist receiving TE. But idk, i just don't see a lot of value in it as a big project. More likely you just invest a lot of effort in basically nothing but a guy who is really good at reaching stuff down off the top shelf for other football players. Anything in his combine "athletic results" that looks really promising seems like a total mirage to me. Whatever story they tell on paper, is very different than what i see on the tape. Though he wouldn't be the first "better in gym shorts" linear sort of "track fast" guy to post misleading results somewhere. Haven't dug into all the WR results or watched the drills yet, so maybe i'm about to be shocked. But i really doubt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 hours ago, BetterCallSaul said: Bc of the college he goes to. I know his times sucked, but he’s way more athletic. KB would’ve been way more athletic if he wasn’t so busy eating McRibs and McNuggies all year long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techbert Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 hours ago, rob_shadows said: I never watched any Florida State games. Can Johnny Wilson actually play or is he just a big body? With his size and athletic profile he could be a red zone God if he actually has skills. If you keep everything simple and limit what he has to do each play, he could help you as a late round addition to your team. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 4 hours ago, rob_shadows said: I never watched any Florida State games. Can Johnny Wilson actually play or is he just a big body? With his size and athletic profile he could be a red zone God if he actually has skills. Wilson looks dominant at times and awful at others. Inconsistent hands but very big and athletic. I feel like his best chance might be as a Darren Waller type TE for an offensive mind who is willing to be creative. I think you have to scheme a lot of routes where he can use his build-up speed (over routes, drags, seam routes, corners, posts, etc.). 4 hours ago, Rich7sena said: Jackson had playmaking (i.e. open-field vision) that I have not seen from Worthy. Also, I never had an issue with Jackson's hands. Worthy reminds me most of Curtis Samuel because it all looks pretty good until he has to catch the ball. Sounds like Ted Ginn Jr. Edited March 3 by jrry32 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 11 hours ago, nagahide13 said: Coleman is testing really poorly. Knew he wasn't a burner but 4.62 is pretty miserable. Doesn't look like he's tested particularly well in any facet except size. I doubt he's hurt but he had better show teams something more than he has at the combine so far. I actually came away more impressed by him. Jumps were great, field workout was really impressive. He's a big possession receiver - teams need those. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 36 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: I actually came away more impressed by him. Jumps were great, field workout was really impressive. He's a big possession receiver - teams need those. I've been really high on him for a while now. Thought he'd be the 4th receiver drafted. I'm seeing a lot of Allen Robinson comps and unfortunately I think those are looking more accurate than my projection... or like a slower Kenny Golladay with superior YAC. Maybe me being disappointed and you being impressed is just us meeting in the middle. 😁 Edited March 3 by nagahide13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamq Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) MHJ Nabers BTJ Odunze Roman Wilson Coleman Mitchell McConkey Franklin Worthy Burton Leggett Polk Pearsall Rice Incomplete but this is how I have it right now. It seems like there are more quality WRs in this class than ever before, no? Edited March 3 by adamq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 42 minutes ago, adamq said: MHJ Nabers BTJ Odunze Roman Wilson Coleman Mitchell McConkey Franklin Worthy Burton Leggett Polk Pearsall Rice Incomplete but this is how I have it right now. It seems like there are more quality WRs in this class than ever before, no? Probably the deepest in the first 2 1/2 rounds..quite easily. And then…it’s over. I’m not intrigued by the day 3 guys at all. The only other dude I like not on your list is Ainias Smith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: Probably the deepest in the first 2 1/2 rounds..quite easily. And then…it’s over. I’m not intrigued by the day 3 guys at all. The only other dude I like not on your list is Ainias Smith. Coker and Baker have some day 3 intrigue along with Gould(RS) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 14 hours ago, MaddHatter said: Saw a comp for Xavier Worthy as DeSean Jackson - similar size, build and speed. Legit? DJack is slightly more stout, being a bit shorter, and bit 10-15 lbs heavier. Worthy is fast no doubt, definitely gonna rely on getting separation, not sure he's as scrappy as DJack was. Though the height may give him a bit more of an edge on some jumpballs even if it's not necessarily his bread and butter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 14 hours ago, Rich7sena said: Jackson had playmaking (i.e. open-field vision) that I have not seen from Worthy. Also, I never had an issue with Jackson's hands. Worthy reminds me most of Curtis Samuel because it all looks pretty good until he has to catch the ball. Didn’t worthy play with a broken hand in 2022? Seemed like he had way less drops last season in comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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