Daniel Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: He did drills And looked like a guy that weighs 366 in said drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, nicfre2011 said: Did Sweat do any drills or did he just do the weigh-in? He did the field workout and moved around well for a dude that huge and obviously ran good enough I would say. I thought his arms would be longer though with how well he gets up and deflects passes, but the dude gives effort that is for sure. Yes Murphy II is getting all the hype but Sweat had more tackles and was more impactful deflecting passes as well. Murphy will be selected over Sweat though because guys like Sweat seem to be less wanted in the NFL now a ways with the quick passing offenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 With Sweat you will always worry about his motor. He would be a 1st rounder 20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, thrILL! said: Being dumb definitely keeps ppl out of trouble, right? Besides, even if a CFB player can’t figure out elementary school science, an NFL playbook is easy peasy lemon squeezey to learn. I mean...Kyrie Irving is as dumb as a box of rocks. He seems to be doing just fine in his sport. There are a ton of absolute illiterate morons in the NFL right now. Pro Bowlers. Superstars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, jebrick said: With Sweat you will always worry about his motor. He would be a 1st rounder 20 years ago. With that 40 time it is the 3rd fastest 40 time for a guy over 350 pounds at the combine in the last 20 years apparently. Curious if he does the bench press or not. The dude is hilarious, I doubt he will not have a motor. He is a funny guy, great energy and guys like DJ Reader and DJ Jones have got paid and both being just run stoppers for the most part. But yes he will not be drafted as high as in years past but I like his athletic ability for a guy his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 32 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: I mean...Kyrie Irving is as dumb as a box of rocks. He seems to be doing just fine in his sport. There are a ton of absolute illiterate morons in the NFL right now. Pro Bowlers. Superstars. There's definitely a halo effect with athletes. The better they are, the more people assume they must also be hardworking, smart, dedicated etc... While generally true, there are still many players (even the superstars) that are still coasting on raw talent (think Marshawn Lynch's skittles-based diet). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, Teen Girl Squad said: There's definitely a halo effect with athletes. The better they are, the more people assume they must also be hardworking, smart, dedicated etc... While generally true, there are still many players (even the superstars) that are still coasting on raw talent (think Marshawn Lynch's skittles-based diet). That is true to some degree, but more often than not if they are not hardworking, smart and dedicated they will never actually win anything of value in their career. Marshawn Lynch was good no question but also grew up in very rough neighborhood that helped form him. Eating a few skittles sure is not great practice but with an athlete like that it was all burnt off and used sugar so who cares. Tons of athletes have grown up in hard situations, and they become possibly successful pros, have kids of their own that do not go through the same hard times as a child and the kids even though athletically gifted are never great as a pro potentially. But to even pretend that most of the great athletes do not work hard, that is ridiculous. Kobe Bryant shot what 1000 shots a day every day? To pretend that type of commitment is not involved in high level achievement in sports is just wrong. Sure NFL is a bit different and at times guys can get by on athletic ability a little more but simply put it is not natural to do many things that happen during an NFL game so that has to be practiced thousands of times to get natural at it. No one just shows up during game day and succeeds without major practice and commitment. Can people get confused with what is actually track and field skills and what is football ability, yes sure. Either way when very big men run fast it is really hard to not be impressed with that. Very few guys can just walk in randomly and perform to that degree running, Randy Moss is one of the few that I think could maybe have actually done that without much practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Ozzy said: That is true to some degree, but more often than not if they are not hardworking, smart and dedicated they will never actually win anything of value in their career. Marshawn Lynch was good no question but also grew up in very rough neighborhood that helped form him. Eating a few skittles sure is not great practice but with an athlete like that it was all burnt off and used sugar so who cares. Tons of athletes have grown up in hard situations, and they become possibly successful pros, have kids of their own that do not go through the same hard times as a child and the kids even though athletically gifted are never great as a pro potentially. But to even pretend that most of the great athletes do not work hard, that is ridiculous. Kobe Bryant shot what 1000 shots a day every day? To pretend that type of commitment is not involved in high level achievement in sports is just wrong. Sure NFL is a bit different and at times guys can get by on athletic ability a little more but simply put it is not natural to do many things that happen during an NFL game so that has to be practiced thousands of times to get natural at it. No one just shows up during game day and succeeds without major practice and commitment. Can people get confused with what is actually track and field skills and what is football ability, yes sure. Either way when very big men run fast it is really hard to not be impressed with that. Very few guys can just walk in randomly and perform to that degree running, Randy Moss is one of the few that I think could maybe have actually done that without much practice. No one is pretending they don't. Its a wide spectrum (hence why I say its generally true that it correlates). There's a reason even smart front offices take chances on talent. Someone like Howie can walk into his building and see Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean doing everything right and struggling to consistently make an impact on the field, while Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter half-*** their way into more production. The eval process would be much easier if you could just draft all the hard working dedicated types and lock in success. No one actually wants knuckleheads but they keep getting drafted and signed/employeed for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 8 hours ago, goldfishwars said: There is some real athleticism in this LB class - some players I really like tested out I'll be curious to see how Wilson's medicals go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 DB measurements coming in (that’s not a good weight for Wiggins) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, Forge said: I'll be curious to see how Wilson's medicals go. Yeah, only thing holding him back from being LB1 for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 12 minutes ago, Teen Girl Squad said: No one is pretending they don't. Its a wide spectrum (hence why I say its generally true that it correlates). There's a reason even smart front offices take chances on talent. Someone like Howie can walk into his building and see Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean doing everything right and struggling to consistently make an impact on the field, while Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter half-*** their way into more production. The eval process would be much easier if you could just draft all the hard working dedicated types and lock in success. No one actually wants knuckleheads but they keep getting drafted and signed/employeed for a reason. Dean has not done anything because he was hurt this past year and never really got a chance to show what he can do because of it, and Nolan Smith even in college has pretty suspect instincts as a football player so unless he is a edge speed rusher he could struggle but it is early for him. So yeah Smith for sure is a great athlete but is not just about being a great athlete. As for Davis or Carter not sure they are half assing their way to success. Both have been promising players on the inside but usually interior players do not always perform great early in their career. Also the Eagles failed as a team because that secondary pretty much sucked compared to the year before and Slay/Bradberry took massive steps back compared to the career years they had before, not to mention pretty much having no slot corner all season as well with Maddox out and McPhearson out who showed promise and was a good rotation CB. And clearly they really missed White and TJ Edwards because their LB play was pretty awful as well. Yes Nolan Smith and Dean are super smart and great with math and engineering, that does not have a ton to do with playing football and both also get hurt pretty consistently as well which is also a major factor in their lack of development but still it is crazy early in their careers. Granted Jalen Carter did have part in killing two people while they were illegally racing cars. But in terms of his work ethic, not sure that is awful, but his character possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teen Girl Squad Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: This OL class is like a downpour in the middle of a drought for the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, Teen Girl Squad said: This OL class is like a downpour in the middle of a drought for the NFL. So deep, whole tiers of prospects at all spots. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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