(VOTE) What Should We Do W/ Picks 1 & 4?

[bruceb]

9 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said:

If I were the GM, I'm taking Barkley at 1, and Fitzpatrick at 4.

Good thing that you are not the GM. 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

15 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said:

If I were the GM, I'm taking Barkley at 1, and Fitzpatrick at 4. Gives us the best offensive and defensive players in this draft. Sadly, I don't see Dorsey passing up on a QB. It's understandable, but gosh I'd love to add both Minkah and Saquon to this roster. Immediate and long term impacts of both are far more likely than any of the QB's we could take at 1 or 4.

[Kiwibrown]

28 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said:

If I were the GM, I'm taking Barkley at 1, and Fitzpatrick at 4. Gives us the best offensive and defensive players in this draft. Sadly, I don't see Dorsey passing up on a QB. It's understandable, but gosh I'd love to add both Minkah and Saquon to this roster. Immediate and long term impacts of both are far more likely than any of the QB's we could take at 1 or 4.

I appreciate you. But I’m glad you ain’t GM. 

Darnold/Rosen/Baker

[buno67]

28 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said:

If I were the GM, I'm taking Barkley at 1, and Fitzpatrick at 4. Gives us the best offensive and defensive players in this draft. Sadly, I don't see Dorsey passing up on a QB. It's understandable, but gosh I'd love to add both Minkah and Saquon to this roster. Immediate and long term impacts of both are far more likely than any of the QB's we could take at 1 or 4.

sorry to break it to you but Chubb is the best overall defensive player in the draft

[Bonanza23]

37 minutes ago, MistaBohmbastic said:

If I were the GM, I'm taking Barkley at 1, and Fitzpatrick at 4. Gives us the best offensive and defensive players in this draft. Sadly, I don't see Dorsey passing up on a QB. It's understandable, but gosh I'd love to add both Minkah and Saquon to this roster. Immediate and long term impacts of both are far more likely than any of the QB's we could take at 1 or 4.

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[bosko1616]

Alex Smith/Kirk Cousins Draft Darnold and Barkley/Minka

 

[brownie man]

Man how absolutely amazing it is that we've even got this number 4 pick. 

Sashi Brown having the balls to make those trades is crazy when you think about it 

and @Mind Character 

I believe you're the big fan of Bradley Chubb right? 

No way hes better than Arden Key. How would you feel about Key at 4 is the risk too big? Where would you take him?

[brownie man]

15 hours ago, buno67 said:

sorry to break it to you but Chubb is the best overall defensive player in the draft

Ok your the big Chubb fan

there no way hes a better end prospect than a sain Arden Key

Chubb is going to be a very good player, but hes not elite 

Key could be, and I'm really intrested to see him in the interviews if everything checks out I'd gladly have him at 4 over Chubb. Pure pass rusher 

[TheeRealDeal]

7 minutes ago, brownie man said:

Man how absolutely amazing it is that we've even got this number 4 pick. 

Sashi Brown having the balls to make those trades is crazy when you think about it 

and @Mind Character 

I believe you're the big fan of Bradley Chubb right? 

No way hes better than Arden Key. How would you feel about Key at 4 is the risk too big? Where would you take him?

Pure pass rush Arden Key is better. Literally every other aspect of the game Bradley Chubb blows him out of the water. Arden Key is going to be a sack master from Day 1 but he gives little to no effort in the run game and has ZERO power rush skills or ability. He is a much lesser version of Myles Garrett's freak explosive pass rush and quickness. We already have Garrett so if we are to add another starting DE we would do much better with a DE who can bully other OTs and win with power as well as anchor against the run.

Arden Key has some serious personality and off the field questions as well. Too many to make him the 4th pick. If we traded back to 16-25 range and he we there then I wouldn't mind the pick and letting him just be a 3rd down specialist while Ogbah remained the starter for at least a year maybe even two.

[FGK]

5 minutes ago, brownie man said:

Chubb is going to be a very good player, but hes not elite 

Key could be, and I'm really intrested to see him in the interviews if everything checks out I'd gladly have him at 4 over Chubb. Pure pass rusher 

[Mind Character]

11 minutes ago, brownie man said:

Man how absolutely amazing it is that we've even got this number 4 pick. 

Sashi Brown having the balls to make those trades is crazy when you think about it 

and @Mind Character 

I believe you're the big fan of Bradley Chubb right? 

No way hes better than Arden Key. How would you feel about Key at 4 is the risk too big? Where would you take him?

Hell to the nah nah...

Arden Key gets dominated by lesser comp way too often and has stiff hips and a weak punch. He's better suited as 34 OLB that can use his length to turn the edge.

I'd take Key toward the back end of the 2nd round not the top of the 2nd, but really when I was watching Chubb I was also working my way through Arden key which left me very disappointed....and really I don't wouldn't draft him in the first 2 rounds but would stomach it with the Eagles pick.

Marcus Davenport DE UTSA is a much more worthy top64 prospect and is better than Key and both aren't on the level of Chubb

 

[brownie man]

1 hour ago, freakygeniuskid said:

 

 

54 minutes ago, Mind Character said:

Hell to the nah nah...

Arden Key gets dominated by lesser comp way too often and has stiff hips and a weak punch. He's better suited as 34 OLB that can use his length to turn the edge.

I'd take Key toward the back end of the 2nd round not the top of the 2nd, but really when I was watching Chubb I was also working my way through Arden key which left me very disappointed....and really I don't wouldn't draft him in the first 2 rounds but would stomach it with the Eagles pick.

Marcus Davenport DE UTSA is a much more worthy top64 prospect and is better than Key and both aren't on the level of Chubb

 

 

 

1 hour ago, TheeRealDeal said:

Pure pass rush Arden Key is better. Literally every other aspect of the game Bradley Chubb blows him out of the water. Arden Key is going to be a sack master from Day 1 but he gives little to no effort in the run game and has ZERO power rush skills or ability. He is a much lesser version of Myles Garrett's freak explosive pass rush and quickness. We already have Garrett so if we are to add another starting DE we would do much better with a DE who can bully other OTs and win with power as well as anchor against the run.

Arden Key has some serious personality and off the field questions as well. Too many to make him the 4th pick. If we traded back to 16-25 range and he we there then I wouldn't mind the pick and letting him just be a 3rd down specialist while Ogbah remained the starter for at least a year maybe even two.

 

 

But dont you all think that Chubb is too similar to Ogbah

Ogbah is a pretty damn good young player who was getting better before going down

To me pass rush is more important I'd rather have Key come in on a 3rd down and pass rush and move Ogbah inside than have Chubb and Ogbah

And if your going to draft Chubb Ogbah is going to be regulated to that third pass rusher.

Key to me adds a skillset that is more desirable as a third rusher than the skillset Ogbah would have as your third rusher since hed be moved down after drafting Chubb 

[FGK]

30 minutes ago, brownie man said:

But dont you all think that Chubb is too similar to Ogbah

Ogbah is a pretty damn good young player who was getting better before going down

I don't want ANY first round pass rusher because I think we already have two top 20 DE's and we should just play them both 70% of the time or more and find a better 3rd pass rusher to push Nassib/Orchard to 4th/5th rushers. But if I have to take one, it isn't Key. I agree with Mind, he's an athlete/upside pick that belongs in the late first to late second.

[TheeRealDeal]

@brownie man You don't take a 3rd pass rush specialist 4th overall period. I am not as low on Key as MC seems to be but I already gave my opinion as to where the value would line up and that for me would be 16-25 range. Bradley Chubb is a far superior all around prospect and event though he has a different pass rush style could get just as much production in that area as well. Chubb can be a game wrecker on every down and for longer stretches than Key and that is what makes him worthy of the 4th overall pick.

If we want a 3rd pass rush specialist then we should be targeting prospect outside of the first round. I think Jalyn Holmes or Harold Landry could provide that pass rush and could go round 2-3. I also really like the developmental options Ade Aruna and Kemoko Turray that could be had in the 4th-7th rounds. Obviously there is development needed with these types but I'd rather develop a 4th-7th rounder than try to develop the 4th overall pick.

[brownie man]

18 minutes ago, TheeRealDeal said:

@brownie man 

If we want a 3rd pass rush specialist then we should be targeting prospect outside of the first round. I think Jalyn Holmes or Harold Landry could provide that pass rush and could go round 2-3.

 

See I totally agree here

but I'm saying  more so if you wanted to take a pass rusher at 4 I'm taking Key over Chubb because of the pass rusher ability 

Chubb and Ogbah are just too similar thats what I'm saying 

I'd rather have Fitzpatrick or Barkley 

and then come back in the 2nd or 3rd I'm a big Sam Hubbard fan as our 3rd rusher