Superman(DH23) Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Marc Silverman of Espn1000 came up with it. I just borrowed it bc it fits when a guy commits "professional suicide" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Professional suicide? He's being given the opportunity to eventually take over one of the most successful organizations in NFL history in nearly the same fashion that Belichick was given the keys to the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, lancerman said: Even if he isn’t, he’s fine. You think a team like the Browns isn’t going to try to sign the OC whose led a league leading offense every year? Maybe the Colts won’t. No i dont. Ok maybe the Browns, since after all, they are the browns. But do you really believe any gm worth his salt wants to spend the time and energy to interview and negotiate only to agree on a deal and then have a guy back out. Good faith means a ton in a negotiation. Mcd has proven he cant be trusted or believed. No, no gm is going to go down that road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, lancerman said: Even if he isn’t, he’s fine. You think a team like the Browns isn’t going to try to sign the OC whose led a league leading offense every year? Maybe the Colts won’t. Yeah m8, his offenses from 2009-2011 we’re sure unstoppable. McDaniels literally had to be the best OC in the league for several years to get another HC gig given how terrible the first one was (and given what his Broncos players have said about him, he wasn’t a good guy in a tough spot, he was an utter punk who’s players quit on him) That and this together probably finishes his changes of being a head coach again unless it’s with the Patriots. Hopefully Brady and Belichick retire together after another Super Bowl defeat next year, then McDaniels takes over and they go in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just now, Troy Brown said: Professional suicide? He's being given the opportunity to eventually take over one of the most successful organizations in NFL history in nearly the same fashion that Belichick was given the keys to the Patriots. According to him and Robert Kraft hes not. What he has done is alienate the other 31 owners and gms have may considered him for an hc position, that almost certainly wont now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: No i dont. Ok maybe the Browns, since after all, they are the browns. But do you really believe any gm worth his salt wants to spend the time and energy to interview and negotiate only to agree on a deal and then have a guy back out. Good faith means a ton in a negotiation. Mcd has proven he cant be trusted or believed. No, no gm is going to go down that road. Any GM worth his salt wouldn’t have hired his recommended staff without pen to paper. Winning matters in this league. Remember Greg Hardy had a job not long ago. They just won’t stick their neck out till the deal is sealed. People are kidding themselves if they think this matters long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: According to him and Robert Kraft hes not. What he has done is alienate the other 31 owners and gms have may considered him for an hc position, that almost certainly wont now No he alienated one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 hours ago, cddolphin said: Taking a better offer before you sign your contract is a reasonable thing to do. Misleading three other coaches, letting them sign contracts, making them move their families to Indy for what will likely be just one year (I'm sure the new HC will want his own guys sooner rather than later), not informing Indy you weren't taking the job after all, letting them announce the hiring.. this isn't a mid-level manager at Best Buy. You are 1 of 32 qualified individuals, and you waited until all the other positions had been filled before backing out like a puss. Anybody defending this guy is either 1) biased or 2) an immoral person Can't I be both? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: According to him and Robert Kraft hes not. What he has done is alienate the other 31 owners and gms have may considered him for an hc position, that almost certainly wont now Yes I'm sure Kraft gave him a boatload of money and Belichick offered to make him de facto assistant coach and bring him into GM decision making process because they didn't want to replace a coordinator. Anyone who thinks McDaniels isn't the coach in waiting is crazy. I'm not saying he's been guaranteed anything or that Belichick gave him a timeline, but at this point, its pretty clear unless he royally screws up he will replace Belichick when he decides to hang them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, lancerman said: No he alienated one. No he alienated 31. His own agent told him it was professional. Every single owner and gm is going to ask the colts about it at the owners meeting. Bob Lamontes clients are going to ask him about it. This wasnt done in the corner. Everybody knows the story, every owner and gm is going to know that Mcd doesnt act in good faith. He is unofficially blackballed in the nfl. Kudos to BB and Kraft on convincing him to commit career suicide bc now he is dead to everyone else in the NFL but the patriots. He is now Krafts indentured servant bc the only way he is working in the NFL is for the Pats. Its some real art of war ish 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Still the only behaviors Pats fans don't defend to the end is murder and leaving New England. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Stallyns Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Before the coaching search/interviews began Chris Ballard said that if a coach wanted to come to Indy because of Luck then he didn’t want him because he wanted a coach who wanted to be an Indianapolis Colt. With that said, If McDaniels was going to give the Patriots a chance to convince him to stay he could’ve made that clear from the get go and Ballard wouldn’t have wasted time on him. McDaniels clearly convinced all parties that he was all in and then decided to ‘do what’s right for his family?’ I don’t buy it. I also don’t buy that this was some sort of revenge on the Colt’s for deflate gate. That’s just someone’s excuse to justify McDaniel’s actions and deflect the fan base’s attention from the big loss. Now they have a reason to stand up for their owner, HC and OC. Notice who’s missing? The DC, even though Belichick is a defensive mastermind he is able to throw Patricia under the bus (and ‘let him leave’) as the guy who ruined the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, lancerman said: Any GM worth his salt wouldn’t have hired his recommended staff without pen to paper. Winning matters in this league. Remember Greg Hardy had a job not long ago. They just won’t stick their neck out till the deal is sealed. People are kidding themselves if they think this matters long term. You mean the same GM who signed teammate-bashing T.O. and illegal gun-totting Tank Johnson, drafted momma beater Dez Bryant, let a drunk driver who killed a teammate stay on the team (Josh Brent) and traded for professional thug Pacman Jones wanted to give a GF beater a chance? *gasp* You don't say! Yeah, no, it does matter. GMs don't want a proven liar and backstabber on the negotiating table. What he did is public record and now every GM will remember him as the guy who bailed on a team after signing on the dotted line. Then again, McD could be caught sacrificing babies in the name of Satan and you Pats fans would still try to defend him. Your moral compass isn't exactly pointing North. Edited February 8, 2018 by KManX89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 i think this was super crappy of him but i'm sipping up all this pats drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, KManX89 said: You mean the same GM who signed teammate-bashing T.O. and illegal gun-totting Tank Johnson, drafted momma beater Dez Bryant, let a drunk driver who killed a teammate stay on the team (Josh Brent) and traded for professional thug Pacman Jones wanted to give a GF beater a chance? *gasp* You don't say! Yeah, no, it does matter. GMs don't want a proven liar and backstabber on the negotiating table. What he did is public record and now every GM will remember him as the coach who bailed on a team after signing on the bottom line. Then again, McD could be caught sacrificing babies in the name of Satan and you Pats fans would still try to defend him. Your moral compass isn't exactly pointing North. He never signed a contract otherwise he'd be a colt right now, if the colts were holding back info on Andrew Luck (It wouldn't surprise me if they were, they already lied about it once) to McDaniels he'd have a right to re-consider. What McDaniels did was a d*ck move (especially to those assistants who probably moved to Indy) but it's not like the colts are blameless in this, they waited until after the superbowl to hire a coach. ....How is that at all related to McDaniels leaving the colts? Oh no McDaniels didn't fulfill a commitment that must automatically make all people who defend him not morally right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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