SteelKing728 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 He's such a bully, I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, SteelKing728 said: He's such a bully, I love it! Cleveland is not...although, outside of that one play where he just got blown up by Chris Jones, I think he had to have done a decent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, swede700 said: Cleveland is not...although, outside of that one play where he just got blown up by Chris Jones, I think he had to have done a decent job. From that video, it looks like Cleveland releases Jones because it’s a screen pass, and Jones grabs Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: From that video, it looks like Cleveland releases Jones because it’s a screen pass, and Jones grabs Cleveland. I'll have to see it again...if I remember the play correctly, I think Romo initially thought it was supposed to be a screen too, but then changed his mind and said it really was just a drop-back and he got blown up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, swede700 said: I'll have to see it again...if I remember the play correctly, I think Romo initially thought it was supposed to be a screen too, but then changed his mind and said it really was just a drop-back and he got blown up. Are we talking about the touchdown play that was linked above? Or a different play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, SemperFeist said: Are we talking about the touchdown play that was linked above? Or a different play? It's a different play...I was thinking of the one that Jones actually got a sack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, swede700 said: It's a different play...I was thinking of the one that Jones actually got a sack on. Oh gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vikesfan89 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Wes Phillips was talking about how hard it is to change the narrative around offensive lineman. Has Ingram shown improvement that makes it tougher to switch for Reisner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Wes Phillips was talking about how hard it is to change the narrative around offensive lineman. Has Ingram shown improvement that makes it tougher to switch for Reisner? definitely. The mistakes are obvious to everyone. The successes are difficult to see in real time, and much harder to accept once people are predisposed to believing something else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: definitely. The mistakes are obvious to everyone. The successes are difficult to see in real time, and much harder to accept once people are predisposed to believing something else. It is very hard to break an impression. In all walks of life, but especially emotional ones like fandom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 20 hours ago, swede700 said: “There are thee kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 19 hours ago, PrplChilPill said: It is very hard to break an impression. In all walks of life, but especially emotional ones like fandom. or supporting cult leaders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: “There are thee kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics.” Except it isn’t a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Except it isn’t a lie. It's not a lie, but I'll still say it's misleading...because more than any other position in football, the rating of offensive line play is based on perception rather than actual hard statistics. The person watching the tape has to guess what the responsibilities of the individual linemen are and then make a judgment on it. I'm not saying they haven't gotten better at it, since they probably have, but it's really hard to evaluate the meaning of these ratings since we have no idea the capability of the people evaluating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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