Dr LBC Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, SilverNBlackFan said: They clearly believe they have said QB in place. They felt the same way about a number of the QB's that were the other bookend to Tony Romo also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, SBLIII said: Gruden robbed Jerry Jones. Stunning. Biggest fleecing since Ryan Grigson trading a 1st for Trent Richardson, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Just now, Jeezla said: Cooper is basically a shorter Braylon Edwards. He had hands for 2 years, and now they are gone. You sold high, imo. I get it. he's still young and could improve. He could also get worse. Probably needs to go to sports psychologist, like Agholor did, and figure out why he's turning into Braylon Edwards 2.0 He wasn't dropping balls nearly as much this year. Again, I don't think you, or many people in this thread have watched him nearly as much as I have. Let alone improve, he has touchdown catches that WR's in this league flat out don't have. The reason Raiders fans are arguing is that many of us, including me, really don't care for NFL Gen patting them on the back. They have honest sentiments about the trade and the talent involved and are expressing them. This is not an ideal situation for Cooper and Dallas may be the worst team to make this trade for all we know. I didn't even bring up Joel Segal, Cooper's agent, who help Mack leverage himself out of Oakland. My point is, many here can't evaluate WR's and are caught in the moment. They buy more into bulk stats than watching for ability to separate, YAC, objectively evaluating talent within a scheme, etc. @jrry32 may agree with me here, as we see Cooper in a similar light. I won't really argue it more. The trade is done. Cooper is not a Raider. Everyone else thinks he's expendable so I'll hope I'm downright wrong and that this trade was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I like Cooper more than most, was a big fan of him coming out of Alabama... but you just don't give up a 1st when he's due for a big payday after not living up to the #4 overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: He wasn't dropping balls nearly as much this year. Again, I don't think you, or many people in this thread have watched him nearly as much as I have. Let alone improve, he has touchdown catches that WR's in this league flat out don't have. The reason Raiders fans are arguing is that many of us, including me, really don't care for NFL Gen patting them on the back. They have honest sentiments about the trade and the talent involved and are expressing them. This is not an ideal situation for Cooper and Dallas may be the worst team to make this trade for all we know. I didn't even bring up Joel Segal, Cooper's agent, who help Mack leverage himself out of Oakland. My point is, many here can't evaluate WR's and are caught in the moment. They buy more into bulk stats than watching for ability to separate, YAC, objectively evaluating talent within a scheme, etc. @jrry32 may agree with me here, as we see Cooper in a similar light. I won't really argue it more. The trade is done. Cooper is not a Raider. Everyone else thinks he's expendable so I'll hope I'm downright wrong and that this trade was good. I haven't watched him much this year. I did watch him last year, because he was on my fantasy team. Of course he's expendable. He's a WR, not a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 hours ago, RamRod said: And the Patriots got Gordon for a fifth Gordon is 1 candy cigarette away from never playing in the NFL again. These 2 situations are not comparable, however Coopers actual value is closer to a late 2nd/early 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Raiders are getting great value in these trades. A first for Cooper seems like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 It's insane to think that just a couple of years ago the Raiders had Carr, Cooper on rookie deals and had Latavius Murray and just signed Osemele and Rodney Hudson and people thought "Well, that's the Raiders set on offense for the next 5 years at least, maybe the next decade." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: It's insane to think that just a couple of years ago the Raiders had Carr, Cooper on rookie deals and had Latavius Murray and just signed Osemele and Rodney Hudson and people thought "Well, that's the Raiders set on offense for the next 5 years at least, maybe the next decade." I don't remember ever thinking "wow, Latavius Murray." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, SilverNBlackFan said: I think a lot of you guys harping on the 1st have never seen Amari play I've seen him play. A 1st for him is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, ninjapirate said: you have to actually choose good players with those picks though Very true. How many drafts in the last decade have the Browns had multiple first round picks? How have they done in the past few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 All too easy for the Raiders. "Child's play." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I've seen him play. A 1st for him is laughable. So what did you think of the Brandin Cooks trades. Or Sammy Watkins and ARobs deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, SilverNBlackFan said: So what did you think of the Brandin Cooks trades. Or Sammy Watkins and ARobs deals. All over pays tbh. Sammy’s price was the worst though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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