bosko1616 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Arians for the present. Kitchens for the future. Kris Richards DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, bosko1616 said: Arians for the present. Kitchens for the future. Kris Richards DC. Arians for only a year? If the success continues with this offense Kitchen can become a hot HC candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Xenos said: For those who have a subscription, it's a good article about how Freddie Kitchen is utilizing his experience with Arians to run this offense. One key aspect is how Arians would deliberately use a play against one opponent so that it would be on film, and then use the exactly same play the following week against another opponent but use it to set up a deep TD pass instead. https://theathletic.com/705561/2018/12/12/ted-nguyens-film-room-freddie-kitchens-applies-lessons-learned-from-bruce-arians-to-the-browns-offense/ The Athletic article references a lot of information from an old 2015 Peter King article (this one is free). https://www.si.com/mmqb/2015/11/17/nfl-carson-palmer-arizona-cardinals-inside-game-plan That concept isnt that creative or special. That is something every offense utilizes or should at least. I remember playing in college we would do that same exact thing. Week 1, we killed the team with one play and for week2, we ran that same play with counter. Hell being a HS coach we would do that. I remember breaking down our own film and really noticed that we abused the ram with a off tackle power play. Prolly ran it 12-15x for 100+ yards. It was the play we ran the most. We ran it out of only one formation, split eye, and it was the only play we ran out of that formation. I noticed that, talked to the OC about it, how we put that huge tell and huge tendency on film like that. Told him we need to run play action off that first play of the game, it could be a huge play. Well we did, WR ran a perfect post and was behind the defense cause the safeties played the run action but our QB under threw him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Anyone have any RUMORS it’s dead lately with juicy guesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mistakey said: Anyone have any RUMORS it’s dead lately with juicy guesses Fleetwood Mac just played the Q in October. It was a good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Reginaldm9 said: Fleetwood Mac just played the Q in October. It was a good show. gooby pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reginaldm9 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Kitchens and Arians is my favorite outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, mistakey said: gooby pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrownsman Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Reginaldm9 said: Kitchens and Arians is my favorite outcome. As long as Arians lets Kitchens call the plays. I don't want the same slow developing crap that Arians has done in his career, that Haley use when he first got there. I want kitchens to run with his system and let Arians be the HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, CBrownsman said: As long as Arians lets Kitchens call the plays. I don't want the same slow developing crap that Arians has done in his career, that Haley use when he first got there. I want kitchens to run with his system and let Arians be the HC If we are just going to keep Kitchens as the OC and hire a HC I would rather just keep Greg Williams and let Freddy have full control of the offense. Greg Williams is an excellent motivator. The offense didn't just suddenly get better because of Freddy. I guarantee there is a huge portion of our success that stems from guys who are putting it on the line for a leader they like/trust and want to play hard for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, TheeRealDeal said: If we are just going to keep Kitchens as the OC and hire a HC I would rather just keep Greg Williams and let Freddy have full control of the offense. Greg Williams is an excellent motivator. The offense didn't just suddenly get better because of Freddy. I guarantee there is a huge portion of our success that stems from guys who are putting it on the line for a leader they like/trust and want to play hard for. I like Gregg and he has done very well. I just think the Browns have the ability to get the best/perfect fit coach they can. The way Baker has played, the Browns have turned into the best spot to land. Browns dont need to settle for a HC this time around. Put Gregg through the process of interviewing and make him earn it. Dont just give him the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, buno67 said: I like Gregg and he has done very well. I just think the Browns have the ability to get the best/perfect fit coach they can. The way Baker has played, the Browns have turned into the best spot to land. Browns dont need to settle for a HC this time around. Put Gregg through the process of interviewing and make him earn it. Dont just give him the job Dude where did I say give Greg the head coaching job? Are there better candidates out there? I believe there are but I do not believe Bruce Arians is one of them especially if the plan is to just let Freddie have free rein on the offense. We can get that with Greg Williams and a better leader/motivator as head coach. I would also like to know why everyone says make Greg Williams earn it but at the same time are ready to give Freddie the keys to the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 12 hours ago, buno67 said: That concept isnt that creative or special. That is something every offense utilizes or should at least. I remember playing in college we would do that same exact thing. Week 1, we killed the team with one play and for week2, we ran that same play with counter. Hell being a HS coach we would do that. I remember breaking down our own film and really noticed that we abused the ram with a off tackle power play. Prolly ran it 12-15x for 100+ yards. It was the play we ran the most. We ran it out of only one formation, split eye, and it was the only play we ran out of that formation. I noticed that, talked to the OC about it, how we put that huge tell and huge tendency on film like that. Told him we need to run play action off that first play of the game, it could be a huge play. Well we did, WR ran a perfect post and was behind the defense cause the safeties played the run action but our QB under threw him It's a little bit more complicated than that, but yeah it's not creative or special. And it doesn't really necessarily need to be. It just needs to work when the time comes and then you get to be called a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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