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8 minutes ago, SimonGruber said:

Been a long time but I believe fans were throwing Batteries at a titans fan in a suite playoffs 03 

Who brings batteries to a game?

Just hilarious to think about people getting ready to leave the house and saying, "Wait..." and running back in and rummaging through the junk draw for some mismatch or probably dead Ds to chuck at someone.

Worst I've seen at a game was a dumb Raider fan trip a Charger fan down 20 or so stairs. Thankfully, people grabbed the Charger before to much damage was done and the tripper got shamed from his seats by everyone around him.

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On 4/29/2019 at 1:00 PM, BayRaider said:

Not sure you’ve lived outside of East Bay then. I’ve basically lived almost everywhere in California so can compare. That whole side of the bay is ghetto with tons of crime, ghetto people, etc. Easy Bay, especially, Oakland is the worst area in Cali with the most questionable people. Sure, not everyone, but a lot. 

Gentrification homie things have changed 

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Guenther on M.Lee

And don’t sleep on Lee. He had bulked up to 250 last year, but Guenther said he is down to 238.

“I told him this is the AFC West, you have to be able to cover,” Guenther said. “He looks good. … I told each guy before he left last season the two or three things that they have to improve on. And I was bluntly honest with all of them. And Marquel has come back in great shape. He may be a different guy on the field, too.”

 

Guenther on Whitehead wearing the green dot and him trying to get the defense lined up. 

I really had to back off what I did on game day. I may call a defense where I want to blitz but if they’re in a max-protection, let’s get out of it … and that was a lot for him, when he is just trying to learn his job.”

Guenther and Burfict, 28, were together for six seasons with the Bengals.

“Burfict has been through all of that, plus the attitude that he brings, and the edginess is something we really need,” Guenther said.

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14 hours ago, agarcia34 said:

Guenther on M.Lee

And don’t sleep on Lee. He had bulked up to 250 last year, but Guenther said he is down to 238.

“I told him this is the AFC West, you have to be able to cover,” Guenther said. “He looks good. … I told each guy before he left last season the two or three things that they have to improve on. And I was bluntly honest with all of them. And Marquel has come back in great shape. He may be a different guy on the field, too.”

I have liked Lee since we drafted him but did not think he had the speed or quickness t  overcome false steps while learning in the pros.  If the light bulb turns on and he gains some quickness I like him as a starter in the near future.  Time will tell but I am definitely pulling for him.

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If the Raiders took the guy taken directly after the one they took.
2004:
1: Larry Fitzgerald, WR
2. Justin Smiley, G
3. Ben Hartstock, TE
4. Alex Stepanovich, C
5. Antonio Smith, DE
6. Nick Leckey, C
7. Greg Brooks, CB
7. Brian Rimpf, G

2005:
1. Aaron Rodgers, QB
2. Mark Bradley, WR
3. Channing Crowder, LB
3. Evan Mathis, G
6. Nick Speegle, LB
6. Derek Anderson, QB
6. Daven Holly, CB

2006:
1. Donte Whitner, S
2. Winston Justice, T
3. Ashton Youboty, CB
4. Calvin Lowry, S
6. Jonathan Lewis, DT
7. Cortland Finnegan, CB

2007:
1. Calvin Johnson, WR
2. Justin Blalock, G
3. Usama Young, CB
3. Trent Edwards, QB
3. Michael Bush, RB
4. Adam Podlesh, P
4. Dwayne Wright, RB
5. Dustin Fry, C
5. Derek Landri, DT
6. Rufus Alexander, LB
7. Ramzee Robinson, CB

2008:
1. Glenn Dorsey, DT
4. Justin King, CB
4. Lavalle Hawkins, WR
6. Barry Richardson, T
7. Peyton Hillis, FB/RB

2009:
1. Eugene Monroe, T
2. Darcel McBath, S
3. Terrance Knighton, DT
4. Lawrence Sidbury, DE
4. Austin Collie, WR
6. DeAndre Wright, CB
6. Jason McCourty, CB

2010:
1. CJ Spiller, RB
2. Zane Beadles, G
3. Ed Dickson, TE
4. Marcus Easley, WR
4. Corey Wooten, DE
5. John Conner, FB
6. Dezmon Briscoe, WR
7. Kyle Calloway, T
7. Austin Spitler, LB

2011:
2. Ben Ijalana, T
3. Vincent Brown, WR
3. Chris Conte, S
4. Cecil Shorts, WR
4. Bilal Powell, RB
5. Dion Lewis, RB
6. Ronald Johnson, WR
7. Malcolm Smith, LB

2012 (going to undo the Carson Palmer trade as we have Rodgers with Anderson as reserve):
1. Melvin Ingram, DE
4. Chris Givens, WR
4. Christian Thompson, S
5. Chris Rainey, RB
5. Asa Jackson, CB
6. Markelle Martin, S
7. Tony Clemons, WR

2013:
1. Sheldon Richardson, DT
2. Manti Teo, LB (also the pick after Carson Palmer undid trade)
2. Jonathan Banks, CB
3. Bennie Logan, DT
4. Barrett Jones, G
6. Vinston Painter, T
6. Kenjon Barner, RB
6. DeVonte Holloman, LB
6. Vince Williams, LB
7. Demetrius McCray, CB
7. Zac Dysert, QB

2014:
1. Jake Matthews, T
2. Rashede Hageman, DE
3. Will Sutton, DT
4. Cassius Marsh, DE
4. Kadeem Carey, RB
7. Shamar Stephen, DT

2015:
1. Brandon Schreff, G
2. TJ Yeldon, RB
3. Tyler Lockett, WR
4. Jake Ryan, LB
5. Martell Spaight, LB
5. Kenny Bell, WR
6. Michael Bennett, DT (not the Michael brother of Martellus)
7. Hayes Pullard, LB
7. Austin Reiter, C
7. Laurence Gibson, T

2016:
1. Corey Coleman, WR
2. Derrick Henry, RB
3. Shon Coleman, T
4. Charles Tapper, DE
5. Connor McGovern, G
6. Wes Schweitzer, G
7. Lachlan Edwards, P

2017:
1. Jabrill Peppers, S
2. Zach Cunningham, LB
3. Donta Foreman, RB
4. Julian Davenport, T
5. Treston Decoud, CB
7. Jalen Myrick, CB
7. Elijah Lee, LB

2018:
1. Tremaine Edmunds, LB
2. Isaiah Oliver, CB
3. Lorenzo Carter, LB
3. Oren Burks, LB
4. Brian Allen, C
5. Shaquem Griffin, LB
5. Marquez Valdez-Scantling, WR
6. Keishawn Bierria, LB
7. Jason Sanders, K

2019:
1. Devin White, LB
1. (we didnt have Cooper to trade)
1. (we didnt have Mack to trade)
2. Dalton Risner, T
4. Anthony Nelson, DE
4. Drue Tranquill, LB
4. Shareef Miller, DE
5. Kingsley Keke, DT
7. Alize Mack, TE

Just home-grown talent our roster and this years FA/Antonio Brown trade have for 2019: 

QB: Aaron Rodgers, Derek Anderson
RB: Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, Bilal Powell, Donta Foreman
WR: Antonio Brown, Marquez Valdez-Scantling
WR: Tyrell Williams, Corey Coleman
Slot: Larry Fitzgerald, Tyler Lockett
TE: Alize Mack, Ed Dickson
LT: Jake Matthews, Shon Coleman
LG: Brandon Schreff, Wes Schweitzer
C: Connor McGovern, Brian Allen
RG: Dalton Risner
RT: Trent Brown, Julian Davenport

DE: Anthony Nelson, Charles Tapper, Shareef Miller
DT:  Sheldon Richardson, Will Sutton, Michael Bennett
NT: Bennie Logan, Johnathan Hankins, Kingsley Keke
DE: Melvin Ingram, Cassius Marsh
LB: Devin White, Lorenzo Carter
LB: Tremaine Edmunds, Manti Teo, Drue Tranquill
LB: Zach Cunningham, Shaqueem Griffin, Elijah Lee
CB: Isaiah Oliver, Jason McCourty, Treston Decoud
CB: Jonathan Banks, Nevin Lawson, Jalen Myrick
FS: Lamarcus Joyner, Erik Harris
SS: Jabrill Peppers, Chris Conte

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2 hours ago, Trojan said:

If the Raiders took the guy taken directly after the one they took.
2004:
1: Larry Fitzgerald, WR
2. Justin Smiley, G
3. Ben Hartstock, TE
4. Alex Stepanovich, C
5. Antonio Smith, DE
6. Nick Leckey, C
7. Greg Brooks, CB
7. Brian Rimpf, G

2005:
1. Aaron Rodgers, QB
2. Mark Bradley, WR
3. Channing Crowder, LB
3. Evan Mathis, G
6. Nick Speegle, LB
6. Derek Anderson, QB
6. Daven Holly, CB

2006:
1. Donte Whitner, S
2. Winston Justice, T
3. Ashton Youboty, CB
4. Calvin Lowry, S
6. Jonathan Lewis, DT
7. Cortland Finnegan, CB

2007:
1. Calvin Johnson, WR
2. Justin Blalock, G
3. Usama Young, CB
3. Trent Edwards, QB
3. Michael Bush, RB
4. Adam Podlesh, P
4. Dwayne Wright, RB
5. Dustin Fry, C
5. Derek Landri, DT
6. Rufus Alexander, LB
7. Ramzee Robinson, CB

2008:
1. Glenn Dorsey, DT
4. Justin King, CB
4. Lavalle Hawkins, WR
6. Barry Richardson, T
7. Peyton Hillis, FB/RB

2009:
1. Eugene Monroe, T
2. Darcel McBath, S
3. Terrance Knighton, DT
4. Lawrence Sidbury, DE
4. Austin Collie, WR
6. DeAndre Wright, CB
6. Jason McCourty, CB

2010:
1. CJ Spiller, RB
2. Zane Beadles, G
3. Ed Dickson, TE
4. Marcus Easley, WR
4. Corey Wooten, DE
5. John Conner, FB
6. Dezmon Briscoe, WR
7. Kyle Calloway, T
7. Austin Spitler, LB

2011:
2. Ben Ijalana, T
3. Vincent Brown, WR
3. Chris Conte, S
4. Cecil Shorts, WR
4. Bilal Powell, RB
5. Dion Lewis, RB
6. Ronald Johnson, WR
7. Malcolm Smith, LB

2012 (going to undo the Carson Palmer trade as we have Rodgers with Anderson as reserve):
1. Melvin Ingram, DE
4. Chris Givens, WR
4. Christian Thompson, S
5. Chris Rainey, RB
5. Asa Jackson, CB
6. Markelle Martin, S
7. Tony Clemons, WR

2013:
1. Sheldon Richardson, DT
2. Manti Teo, LB (also the pick after Carson Palmer undid trade)
2. Jonathan Banks, CB
3. Bennie Logan, DT
4. Barrett Jones, G
6. Vinston Painter, T
6. Kenjon Barner, RB
6. DeVonte Holloman, LB
6. Vince Williams, LB
7. Demetrius McCray, CB
7. Zac Dysert, QB

2014:
1. Jake Matthews, T
2. Rashede Hageman, DE
3. Will Sutton, DT
4. Cassius Marsh, DE
4. Kadeem Carey, RB
7. Shamar Stephen, DT

2015:
1. Brandon Schreff, G
2. TJ Yeldon, RB
3. Tyler Lockett, WR
4. Jake Ryan, LB
5. Martell Spaight, LB
5. Kenny Bell, WR
6. Michael Bennett, DT (not the Michael brother of Martellus)
7. Hayes Pullard, LB
7. Austin Reiter, C
7. Laurence Gibson, T

2016:
1. Corey Coleman, WR
2. Derrick Henry, RB
3. Shon Coleman, T
4. Charles Tapper, DE
5. Connor McGovern, G
6. Wes Schweitzer, G
7. Lachlan Edwards, P

2017:
1. Jabrill Peppers, S
2. Zach Cunningham, LB
3. Donta Foreman, RB
4. Julian Davenport, T
5. Treston Decoud, CB
7. Jalen Myrick, CB
7. Elijah Lee, LB

2018:
1. Tremaine Edmunds, LB
2. Isaiah Oliver, CB
3. Lorenzo Carter, LB
3. Oren Burks, LB
4. Brian Allen, C
5. Shaquem Griffin, LB
5. Marquez Valdez-Scantling, WR
6. Keishawn Bierria, LB
7. Jason Sanders, K

2019:
1. Devin White, LB
1. (we didnt have Cooper to trade)
1. (we didnt have Mack to trade)
2. Dalton Risner, T
4. Anthony Nelson, DE
4. Drue Tranquill, LB
4. Shareef Miller, DE
5. Kingsley Keke, DT
7. Alize Mack, TE

Just home-grown talent our roster and this years FA/Antonio Brown trade have for 2019: 

QB: Aaron Rodgers, Derek Anderson
RB: Derrick Henry, Dion Lewis, Bilal Powell, Donta Foreman
WR: Antonio Brown, Marquez Valdez-Scantling
WR: Tyrell Williams, Corey Coleman
Slot: Larry Fitzgerald, Tyler Lockett
TE: Alize Mack, Ed Dickson
LT: Jake Matthews, Shon Coleman
LG: Brandon Schreff, Wes Schweitzer
C: Connor McGovern, Brian Allen
RG: Dalton Risner
RT: Trent Brown, Julian Davenport

DE: Anthony Nelson, Charles Tapper, Shareef Miller
DT:  Sheldon Richardson, Will Sutton, Michael Bennett
NT: Bennie Logan, Johnathan Hankins, Kingsley Keke
DE: Melvin Ingram, Cassius Marsh
LB: Devin White, Lorenzo Carter
LB: Tremaine Edmunds, Manti Teo, Drue Tranquill
LB: Zach Cunningham, Shaqueem Griffin, Elijah Lee
CB: Isaiah Oliver, Jason McCourty, Treston Decoud
CB: Jonathan Banks, Nevin Lawson, Jalen Myrick
FS: Lamarcus Joyner, Erik Harris
SS: Jabrill Peppers, Chris Conte

Hindsight 

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Changing the first of those drafts, changes who we actually picked and possibly where we picked too.

It also changes all of those players careers to where they may not have even been the same players they are.

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2 hours ago, true2form said:

Thinking about all these drafts and if we would've drafted Rodgers made me think of this. Not sure how many would even remember this.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/2007/02/aaron-rodgers-for-randy-moss.html

Lol i totally remember this rumor. I’ll be honest and say I wasn’t in favor of this because i wanted the Raiders to draft JR. i didn’t want the Raiders to trade for some backup bust. 😂

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